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why r clients asking for natural oral? .. its a NO no

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lately every second client is asking for natural oral ... guys its unsafe for ur health and ours ... its not harmless fun ... safe sexual practice only ..xx
 
When every fifth or so W/L on the east coast advertises this service it not surprising dopey punters ask for this, all I can say is the industry will reap what it sows.
 
Thanks for that Farm Boy - Like Madison, I'm a little over guys asking for natural bjs.

I've noticed that the requests are on the increase and the excuses are shit poor.

Chanell
 
seems to be alot of private girls offer this. My preference is to be safe. last time i saw a private girl in sydney, and said up front i was interested in natural oral. her response was it was included in the price, but "up to you"
 
Hey Guys,
Even so us guys love to go Natural.
Its just not worth the risk! for u, for future partners or for the "next guy"that goes there.
If she is "doing" it with you she probly doing with heaps of others!(maybe)
If its not on it not on!
Thats why like i get "massages"it lowers the risk(not completly) for my partner and future partners.
 
i always ask for it cos a lot of girls will do it. Sometimes some girls will do it without asking they just prefer to. i prefer it too so thats why i ask
 
U can catch chlamydia off the back of a wg's throat, so best to play safe. Sometimes I think guys ask just to see what girls will say (to see what their limits are), the amount of enquiries with weird requests and questioning was off the wall at times! Once I had a client as me if I would suffocate canaries under my boobs?!!??! WTF?! I have also heard it's the police checking to see if you will perform unsafe services, not sure of the truth in that though...
 
Please girls - never do it - for extra cost or not - gives the totally wrong image in my opinion.
The punter that asks for it doesnt respect you.
 
na thats not true. If i ask and she says no i respect that. Wl are the only women ive ever had covered oral from and natural is in my opinion better so why wouldnet i ask. If you were in a bar and picked up, would you ask them to wear a condom to suck you off? Diseases arnt exclusive to wl
 
Diseases arnt exclusive to wl ............................................................Yep everyone got it so it must be Ok
 
well since wl are the only girls doing covered oral theyd be the safest to get natural off
 
personally i ask, and if its on offer i walk away, if its offered to me then how many other guys are they offering it too, and besides it only takes one guy to have it for it to spread.
Especially nowdays, some wl's even try to entice you in with things like CIM etc
For me personally its not worth the risk
 
ummm painter if a lady offers it to you dont feel special .. because she would be offering it to each of her other customers:nono: lol
 
no i dont feel special, but i dont feel like im in any real danger of catching anything. Its the same risk with any non working girl and ive never met one that has offered me covered
 
I am quite sure that if I even hinted at natural oral to my 'regular', I would not be one of her regulars from then on.

I wonder if painter8 has had any tests after his unprotected encounters - I think not.

Tannerone
 
there hasnt been any need for any tests. I have been tested though and that was about a year ago and to tell you the truth theres been 3 wl since then as my punting life has nearly died. But before the test i would say between 50 and 100 different working and non working girls give me natural oral
 
I'm sure many of us blokes love the sensation of natural. But
surely the risk far outweighs the risk for us and the w/l
Any way many of our working ladies are so good at their craft
that you dont care about covered sex.versus uncovered sex
debate.

Stay Safe
 
I always the prefer the "natural' option for a BJ.. I had my first punt way back in 1992
I have been to many establishments and privates.
since then and had many many you are silly.. I get a health check every 4-6 months and I have NEVER had any type of STI !!!

A lot more common to get you are silly from privates in my experience, and usually not on your first visit either..

I would always take the you are silly option if offered, yes if probably has a slight risk to it !

BUT HEY, life is alway full of risks/challenges..
just my two cents worth..::)
 
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Back in B.C eg before condoms were a sex industry legal requirement W/L's were trained to check punters. however accidents did happen many men court STD's but it was all a big joke ( 3 times burnt before you were a man) then along came AIDS and a more sober attitude is required.
 
Well this might not be exactly right but as close as I can remember condoms came in 82 / 83 As for crabs / head lice + scabies no problem over the counter products cure these . Std there was the two manger ones but what gave the most trouble to punters were what the medical people called NSU's ( non specific urethritis) I don't know why maybe the were harder for the W/Ls to spot,
 
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happytimes said:
I wouldn't say the 80's was b.c, but you seem to know alot. Where did you come up with those numbers?
Most women weren't taught fuck all they knew what they needed to do to protect themselves.
You say you got to have 3 std to be a man, i don't think so. I have had one thing in my life, it's called crabs and guess what you don't need to see a woman to get them, but i am guessing you would say that is a std.
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No happytimes I did not say you had to catch STDs 3 times before becoming a man but it was a common expression in the trucking + mining industry back 30 years ago (I am happy to stay a boy)
 
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happytimes .. i personally wouldnt have even given any thought to becoming a sex worker back in the days of no condoms ...my appinion of a sex worker is to promote "safe" sex ...
 
Ok I am going to go against the grain here.

The level of scare mongering being presented is astounding. Some ladies are making natural oral out to be as risky as bare back sex. Yes there are some stds that can be transmitted by oral sex (and certainly herpes can be transmitted from one location to another) but the risk factors are not as high as being made out in this thread. Even the World Health Organisation states that.

Having also done a study on statistics provided by the sexual health clinic in SA for my nursing studies, statistics over the last 15 yrs also shows that transmission of sti's via oral sex is rather a low indicence in sex worker/client interactions (less than .005%)

I have done 2 yrs of a bachelor of nursing, and can honestly say in the 10 yrs I have been working, I have yet to encounter a client who on a health inspection before service (which all sex workers should be doing - if you dont know how to perform a health check on a client, then I suggest you get in touch with your local sex worker organisation for some training on this) presented with any type of symptom that would indicate suspicion of an sti.

I have seen many present with poor hygeine, including jock itch and various sweat rashes in that area, and poor forskin cleansing, but as for actual discharges (either free flowing or on "milking" ) sores, etc havnt seen anything either working in a parlour or privately. When I have encounted rashes/jock itch (which is a form of tinea) I simply explain my concern, suggest they see their GP, and offer them an alternative R&T service (at my r&t prices not full service rates), until they have the issue cleared up.

I am not supporting nor disapproving of the service, just voicing that every sex worker has the right to decide his or her own service. I am really against any sex worker putting down or making negative comments about services he or she doesnt wish to offer.

At the end of the day we are all consenting adults and can make our own choices of the level of sexual risk we are either prepared to offer or prepared to accept, and no one else, be it other clients, or other sex workers should be trying to pressure anyone into sexual activities they are not comfortable with.

As a sex worker, if you only offer covered oral, I can certainly understand the frustration of being asked for it, been there done that, but honestly what harm does a client do to you by asking for a specific service?? YOU can always say no.

I think some people need to research their own information and make decisions on what level of risk is acceptable to them.

Putting down fellow workers who do offer this service is poor form.

There is also no need to put down clients or to try to make them feel guilty for seeking this service.

If you do not wish to offer this service, or if you do not wish to seek out this service, thats cool, but many clients do, and many ladies do offer it.

The whole you are silly debate has been done to death on all the major forums over the years I have been on the net.

As a sex worker you have freedom of choice in what services you offer. That really is all you should be concerned with. What other sex workers choose to provide really shouldnt affect your business. You will always get clients who ask for this service, its par for the course of working in the industry, but you can decline. All you need to do is say you only offer protected services. If its a deal breaker for the client he will go elsewhere. I very much doubt any client wishing to find a lady who will offer this service will have any difficulty doing so.

Each worker makes their own assessement of what level of services they are happy to offer and should not be castigated by their collegues for offering something they do not.

The risk of catching an std from natural oral in a sex worker/client situation is actually very similar to the risk of deep french kissing.....and I bet many of those ladies making a big song and dance about natural oral offer that service.



Amy
 
Amy that has to be one of the best posts I have read in a while. You have done your research and presented facts not assumed numbers. Thank you.
 
Yes well said Amy but I would like to point out my comments come from a much earlier era 69/mid 80s it was freer and problem more fun then ( I was more fun too then ) Every thing was bare back but if a man/boy wanted to use a condom it was always cheerfully given ,if you put it on yourself.W/L s did not seem to give a hoot about how it went on.
 
A different slant
In a lot of places it is illegal to advertise or offer natural french or other natural services.
It would be rather foolish for a WL to advertise that she does.
The same would apply with text or phone contact when making a booking, what the lady offers would need to be guarded in case the person on the phone was from the constabulary.
Soooo when the client actually meets the lady he then asks what is really on offer.
All the lady has to do is confirm that she only offers the services mentioned in the booking contact.
On a first visit she will still have to be discreet as the client could be from the fun police.
Subsequent visits may reveal extra services are available if requested.
 
Very interesting comment Amy......definitely food for though:thumbsup:
 
I have never asked for it, but very occasionally it happens. It is really a case of individual choice (for both parties). A regular visit to Ainslie House is highly recommended as the so called proper checks by ladies are simply pointless as a proportion of infected men will show no symptoms at all of the most common infections such as Chlamydia, Hep B etc.
 
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