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Wish I could express things as you do Richie.
Well said.

I would also add a word to DP.
You must have being doing something wrong my sweet it would not be all his fault.
Perhaps you are one of those negative domineering young ladies that want it all their own way and drive their partner away.
Entering into a relationship does not confer ownership and total domination.

Q
 
@ JadeTV - Ofcourse seeing a W/L is cheating, how anybody could consider it not cheating is beyond me... Sure, there might not be an emotional attachment, but are you suggesting that emotional attachment is the only form of cheating?

Are you suggesting that sexual contact in any form is not cheating? Really? REALLY??? ... So any person in a relationship is free to go screw whoever they like, so long as they don't think about them afterwards? Come on Jade.... *sigh*.

Put it to a nation wide vote, "is f*cking a hooker cheating?", I'm fairly certain I know which answer will come out on top...

The bottom line is, if it wasn't cheating and they knew it wasn't cheating, they'd have no problem telling their wife or partner then would they? ... Exactly...


@ sexnut - You only visit W/L's while you are single, good man, I'm sorry you were cheated on as well, it's the worst feeling in the world, isn't it ? :( ... What you said is 100% correct, if you need to see a W/L while in a relationship, that's a sure sign you need to get out of that relationship!


@ AmyMonroe - I'm not a W/L, so well done wasting all that typing, *claps*


@ lateralthinker - Yeah, the morals and ethics here are absolutely absurd! Not being a fan of people cheating on their partner in marriage, the one they committed and promised their lives to under oath, I'm a real stiffler for sticking by that, huh?


@ RICHIE2012 - If you're married and you see a W/L then you should feel like sh*t, it's not me making you feel that way, it's yourself... You say that sometimes a person falls away from their partner sexually and paint that as some kind of excuse? I'm sorry, but there's NO excuse for cheating on somebody, that is the lowest of the low...

If your relationship has deteriorated to the point that you need to look outside of it for sex, then perhaps you need to get out of that relationship, or at least take avenues to fix the situation...

There are marriage & sex counsellors that do wonderful work, and if you truly love this person, then surely they are worth every piece of effort before you break your vows to them? If you TRULY love somebody, then you'd imagine their horror if they found out you betrayed them and you'd not let that be a possibility, you'd remain faithful.

If you can't remain faithful to somebody then don't walk down the aisle with them, if you can't keep your d*ck in your pants outside of the sanctity of your marriage then you SHOULDN'T BE MARRIED.

If there's no way to fix it, get a divorce, then f*ck whoever you want, but don't make somebody else's life a living lie, if you do, you are scum.


@ dylandelights - Thanks for the delightful PM, just ban me if you please, I really don't care.
 
~Dragons_Princess~ said:
@ JadeTV - Ofcourse seeing a W/L is cheating, how anybody could consider it not cheating is beyond me... Sure, there might not be an emotional attachment, but are you suggesting that emotional attachment is the only form of cheating?

Are you suggesting that sexual contact in any form is not cheating? Really? REALLY??? ... So any person in a relationship is free to go screw whoever they like, so long as they don't think about them afterwards? Come on Jade.... *sigh*.

Put it to a nation wide vote, "is f*cking a hooker cheating?", I'm fairly certain I know which answer will come out on top...

The bottom line is, if it wasn't cheating and they knew it wasn't cheating, they'd have no problem telling their wife or partner then would they? ... Exactly...


@ sexnut - You only visit W/L's while you are single, good man, I'm sorry you were cheated on as well, it's the worst feeling in the world, isn't it ? :( ... What you said is 100% correct, if you need to see a W/L while in a relationship, that's a sure sign you need to get out of that relationship!


@ AmyMonroe - I'm not a W/L, so well done wasting all that typing, *claps*


@ lateralthinker - Yeah, the morals and ethics here are absolutely absurd! Not being a fan of people cheating on their partner in marriage, the one they committed and promised their lives to under oath, I'm a real stiffler for sticking by that, huh?


@ RICHIE2012 - If you're married and you see a W/L then you should feel like sh*t, it's not me making you feel that way, it's yourself... You say that sometimes a person falls away from their partner sexually and paint that as some kind of excuse? I'm sorry, but there's NO excuse for cheating on somebody, that is the lowest of the low...

If your relationship has deteriorated to the point that you need to look outside of it for sex, then perhaps you need to get out of that relationship, or at least take avenues to fix the situation...

There are marriage & sex counsellors that do wonderful work, and if you truly love this person, then surely they are worth every piece of effort before you break your vows to them? If you TRULY love somebody, then you'd imagine their horror if they found out you betrayed them and you'd not let that be a possibility, you'd remain faithful.

If you can't remain faithful to somebody then don't walk down the aisle with them, if you can't keep your d*ck in your pants outside of the sanctity of your marriage then you SHOULDN'T BE MARRIED.

If there's no way to fix it, get a divorce, then f*ck whoever you want, but don't make somebody's else a living lie, if you do, you are scum.


@ dylandelights - Thanks for the delightful PM, just ban me if you please, I really don't care.[/Q

Come on Princess the road of life is long in 30 years time you will not be advising divorce so freely and more forgiving of men's weak ways . and probable be wise enough not to disparage a Sex Worker's client base,
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DP - You are right about one thing
It is cheating and there is no sugar coating for that.
What I'm not sure you understand is, that this is a choice
that each individual makes according to their own circumstances.
I can not look at another person's relationship
and judge what choices are best for them, they own that
relationship, they chose it, its their choice to make, how they live it.
Not my right to judge :)

I am curious why, if your not a wl, why are you involving yourself
in threads related to working lady issues ?
If your here to find a date or random kinky sex, then great, there are areas of the forum,
you'll find this kind of thing
but poking the sex industry the way you have, is like putting your head in the lion's den, espcially
on a site run by a madam ;)
 
ok, now to topic :)

Deny Deny Deny - its an unspoken code :)
I'm sorry to hear this has happened PB, its a BIG stuff up
thats for sure, good luck with damage control xxx

Its a lesson all round by the looks of it.
PB - needs a bat phone :)
WL - no random unwarranted txts or phone calls!! (unless specifically requested by known client)

I have a few regulars who I know are single or some who don't mind txts at any hour,
they established with me early on that this is ok.
Even with this knowledge, I will only respond if they have communicated first
or requested I send them the odd message when I'm randy :)
This is different to random soliciting.

Jade - lol, that is a curious response, its great :) but I can imagine there are a few
guys who have no idea what its about - "what game?"
I assume you would then need to elaborate that your referring to sex games :)
 
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OMG I realy started something,

Just learn from what happen to me thats all I want.

Thanks for all the support and thanks DP for the great debate
 
Hey perthboy, people should tell thier partners honestly what they are doing with whom(if they want to know) and why. My partner actually came to the brothel to check out the girl and we ended up in a threesome, what a reward for being straight with my partner.
Respect yourself and your wife enought to be honest, trust me mate it is the best way. Sometimes doesn't seem like that in the short term, but hey in the long run it will work out for the better. Just a point to ponder.
 
Yes that's not professional at all, as a W/L my self, its non of my business of the clients marital status, I'm not one to judge either way. Though I would not contact a client on my behalf, even if I was a private girl, if the client wants to see you it is up to their discretion to contact the W/L or business.



As suggested perhaps trying a different name in future :)

Good luck

Imogen xx
 
Peter said:
Hey perthboy, people should tell thier partners honestly what they are doing with whom(if they want to know) and why. My partner actually came to the brothel to check out the girl and we ended up in a threesome, what a reward for being straight with my partner.
Respect yourself and your wife enought to be honest, trust me mate it is the best way. Sometimes doesn't seem like that in the short term, but hey in the long run it will work out for the better. Just a point to ponder.
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The WLs are going to piss there panties when Tigermicky turns up.
 
Sensual ~ Vanessa said:
DP - You are right about one thing
It is cheating and there is no sugar coating for that.
What I'm not sure you understand is, that this is a choice
that each individual makes according to their own circumstances.
I can not look at another person's relationship
and judge what choices are best for them, they own that
relationship, they chose it, its their choice to make, how they live it.
Not my right to judge :)

I am curious why, if your not a wl, why are you involving yourself
in threads related to working lady issues ?
If your here to find a date or random kinky sex, then great, there are areas of the forum,
you'll find this kind of thing
but poking the sex industry the way you have, is like putting your head in the lion's den, espcially
on a site run by a madam ;)
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If you read what I have posted, you will see that I have not once attacked the W/L's or the sex industry... I have attacked married men who visit W/L's and utilize the sex industry, that is all.

It's not up to the W/L to know the in's & out's of every client's personal life or make decisions on their behalf, that's the client's business, I understand that and have never stated otherwise.

It doesn't change the fact that married men who visit hookers are nothing short of scum.

If their marriage is in such a shape that they find it neccessary to visit a hooker, then they need to re-evaluate their marriage, simple as that.
 
It is such an interesting topic

Perthboy I am truly sorry to hear what has happened. The WL should know better. Never contact a client unless they have initiated contact, or have given you permission to contact them.:police:

My views on men are perhaps I little distorted because of the industry. However, I have ready many publications which suggest humans as a species are not designed to mate for life. Anthropologists suggest relationships would last approximately 4 years. Long enough to mate and raise a child to somewhat independence.

With this in mind I have a high respect for men who choose to to visit a WL over having an affair. Very few my clients are fortunate enough to receive their wives permission. Most punters realize it is a topic not to be raised, as it would cause catastrophic results. :violent5:

There has been one occasion where a clients wife discovered her husband was seeing me. She left a message on my mobile saying she had been furious at first to find out her husband was cheating, however her range lessened when she discovered I was a prostitute. The client ceased seeing me and I believe their relationship continued.

Let's hope Perthboy's relationship can ride this one out.
 
Marred men are the bread and butter of the sex industry
Princess.

Both party's should recognised this be good to each other and protect our mutual interests .( eg Health physical & verbal attack and misguided legislation. )
 
Farm Boy said:
Marred men are the bread and butter of the sex industry
Princess.

Both party's should recognised this be good to each other and protect our mutual interests .( eg Health physical & verbal attack and misguided legislation. )
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Exactly.. Well said :)

Imogen xx
 
~Dragons_Princess~ said:
It doesn't change the fact that married men who visit hookers are nothing short of scum.

If their marriage is in such a shape that they find it neccessary to visit a hooker, then they need to re-evaluate their marriage, simple as that.
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D-P: I can understand why you feel the way you do as I had a similar situation where my partner went behind my back and eventually left a perfectly good relationship for something which, eventually turned very sour. My attitude initially was much the same as yours, however it does fade over time.

There can be circumstances in a marriage where the woman or man cannot provide any sexual services to their partner. Both parties can, and do, have sexual needs which, if left unsatisfied can sour the relationship. This is not intentional as it occurs within the 'hidden' part of the brain.

In these circmstances, it is right and proper that the services of a W/L (or W/M) are sought. It is up to each party to determine what he/she thinks the partner's reaction to this would be if revealed. In many cases it may be fine, but I know that I wouldn't risk the disclosure, however I would not object to my partner "cheating" if she felt it necessary as it would probably strengthen an already good relationship.
 
Good morning everybody......and wow what a topic, what a read.....better than the newspaper that's for sure.
Perthboy I hope you can fix the situation.......good luck.

I agree with Alexandra Silk. Humans are not designed to mate for life.....never have been and never will be. Prostitution is the oldest profession......wonder why.

R.xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
~Dragons_Princess~ said:
@ JadeTV - Ofcourse seeing a W/L is cheating, how anybody could consider it not cheating is beyond me... Sure, there might not be an emotional attachment, but are you suggesting that emotional attachment is the only form of cheating?

Are you suggesting that sexual contact in any form is not cheating? Really? REALLY??? ... So any person in a relationship is free to go screw whoever they like, so long as they don't think about them afterwards? Come on Jade.... *sigh*.

Put it to a nation wide vote, "is f*cking a hooker cheating?", I'm fairly certain I know which answer will come out on top...

The bottom line is, if it wasn't cheating and they knew it wasn't cheating, they'd have no problem telling their wife or partner then would they? ... Exactly...

@ dylandelights - Thanks for the delightful PM, just ban me if you please, I really don't care.
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ok so say Perth Boy's marriage ends up in shambles over this, the working lady is a faceless enemy of the wife... Why would this be enough to end a marriage when all we do is sell and project a fantasy or illusion?

To me it seems unnecessary or a convenient excuse for underlying problems in the marriage itself in the first place...

Wasn't there a time in Elizabethan history where it was quite common for royalty to have a string of mistresses, The King was still the King, the Queen was still the Queen and their marriage was still a marriage...
This is just some warped modern day version of that...

When a guy goes to a strip club, he's having "cheating" thoughts and then it's left there, I really believe seeing an escort is just an extension to that. What happens in the confines of the brothel or working lady's room is left there and isn't an ongoing personal relationship. Sex for men is a different kind of outlet as sex is for women... That's all i was trying to get across in my original post.
 
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TO THE MORONS OUT THERE WHO NEED TO TEXT CLIENTS, THIS IS ONE I USE FOR MISSED CALLS OR LATE REPLIES:
"Are you going to the game tonight?"

- That's code for, "Need a fuck? or How can I help you?" - Let them come back to you allowing them to start the conversation, if someone scrolls through a client's messages, WAGs will often tune out of texts regarding sports and you pass yourself off as a workmate maintaining your client's discretion and passing the WAG radar. The only time I have ever had to text a client is when they have left stuff at my place... But as a general rule - never SMS clients first, when they do, you know the coast is clear and you can talk freely...
JADETV

Sensual ~ Vanessa said:
ok, now to topic :)

Jade - lol, that is a curious response, its great :) but I can imagine there are a few
guys who have no idea what its about - "what game?"
I assume you would then need to elaborate that your referring to sex games :)
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When they reply back - hours later, days later, I take that as the all clear to chat freely but dont divulge too much straight away. Generally they will have an inkling who's behind the mysterious message...
 
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JadeTV said:
To me it seems unnecessary or a convenient excuse for underlying problems in the marriage itself in the first place...
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there is one black , one white . and thousands of shades of grey .

my ex and i worked really well in money , real estate , career.. the sex faded , and the marriage broke down

i had a few punts during my marriage , only when my ex held sex as hostage and currency , and a weapon in fighting ....
payback is a bitch , why do chicks have to make it so personal .

a guy will go and have a punt make no personal bonds...
a chick will retaliate and screw your best mate of 20+years , for free.
evil!
j
 
lateralthinker said:
there is one black , one white . and thousands of shades of grey .

a guy will go and have a punt make no personal bonds...
a chick will retaliate and screw your best mate of 20+years , for free.
evil!
j
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Sorry to hear that mate - that sux ass! But to answer, I've said this in another thread about the difference in men and women...

Men are Physical - they'll fight it out at the pub, go for the physical traits first in choosing a mate and will distract themselves from confrontation doing handy work around the house

Women are Cognitive - they'll keep their friends close and enemies closer, choose a mate based on stability and security and not appearance and prefer to talk problems out rather then wait for the dust to settle...

Men like to cause damage they can see, Women strike at the core by making you feel the pain from your soul! hahhahaha
 
~Dragons_Princess~ said:
If you read what I have posted, you will see that I have not once attacked the W/L's or the sex industry... I have attacked married men who visit W/L's and utilize the sex industry, that is all.

It's not up to the W/L to know the in's & out's of every client's personal life or make decisions on their behalf, that's the client's business, I understand that and have never stated otherwise.

It doesn't change the fact that married men who visit hookers are nothing short of scum.

If their marriage is in such a shape that they find it neccessary to visit a hooker, then they need to re-evaluate their marriage, simple as that.
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What about married women who cheat on their husbands then?

Or is it ok only to attack married men?

I hope your views on "cheating men" also apply to "cheating women".
 
garibaldi said:
What about married women who cheat on their husbands then?

Or is it ok only to attack married men?

I hope your views on "cheating men" also apply to "cheating women".
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It applies either way, women who cheat are scum as well in my eyes.

I don't know why you assumed it was only a one way street.
 
~Dragons_Princess~ said:
It applies either way, women who cheat are scum as well in my eyes.

I don't know why you assumed it was only a one way street.
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DP
You either missed or chose not to respond to my comment below.
I feel offended that I have been ignored.

You must have being doing something wrong my sweet it would not be all his fault.
Perhaps you are one of those negative domineering young ladies that want it all their own way and drive their partner away.
Entering into a relationship does not confer ownership and total domination.

Q
 
WRXXXR said:
Shit mate.... Every bloke knows those rules aren't to be broken
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mate , the guy who in the end screws your misses ....., he has been in your house , he drank your wine , he eats your food , he watches the game with you on a weekend... and he will betray you .

its Always the best friend .. no one else knows more about your girl , than your best mate ..this information is power .. and with great power comes great responsibility
j
 
The problem with people like Dragon Princess who believe marrriage is forever blah, blah blah... is that she hasn't done it. Forever is a bloody long time, let me tell you. I'm not quite there yet, but fairly close!

Those who haven't done it can easily say "do this, do that, don't cheat", and if you can't hack it get a divorce. Young people always see divorce as the easy answer. Wipe the slate clean and start again. But staying married to the one person forever is the tough path.

On the way to forever, a lot of stuff happens, kids come along, and grand-kids, lots of complexities develop. So the marriage is not just about the husband and the wife anymore. Sex becomes a miniscule part of the whole equation and, from time to time the need for it can even disappear from the equation for one or both of the partners altogether (especially after menopause) but unfortunatley not necessarily at the same time. That's when options like affairs, best mates, WLs (or in DPs case, divorces) come into the equation.

Out of those options, it seems to me that the odd visit to a WL could be construed as the most constructive way of protecting the marriage (and not just the partnership between the husband and the wife, but the whole collection of relationships that depend upon it).
 
Antonov,
Your logo is inapropriate.
You are definately not a wanker.
And I bet you have a few years of living under your belt.

I would mention that it would be better to seek out a professional liasion than to fuel the fires of argument over sex when your partner is no longer interested.
Just because a service is obtained elsewhere does not mean that a lifetime of companionship and friendship needs to be sacrificed.

Q
 
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