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Attracted towards looks or the intelligence????

Assuming an adequate level of physical attractiveness, it would be personality and intelligence for sure.
 
Master Yoda said:
It’s us guys that go for looks first. Not speaking for all of us of course ;)
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If the ladies are fine without sexual intercourse sure intellegence any day. :p But the real truth is alot of women drop men who have a useless third leg and bounce to the next man to satisfy them. So it's a catch 22.
 
Confidence, charm, assertiveness, personality, humour and intelligence, etc means nothing when 99% of women will reject you outright or make up some lame excuse to reject you. I do not see the point in a guy random approaching heaps of women and trying to convince a woman to like him, that will never end well. A woman pursues the guys she is interested and avoids the guys that chase her. Too many men waste too much of their time and energy chasing women, when they could be doing much better things with their time.

A man needs to have the social intelligence and awareness to pick up on the choosing signals that a woman is interested in him or not. There is no point in wasting time trying to convince or persuade her through conversation if she is clearly not interested in you. It is low intelligence of a man that waste money showering a woman with gifts, flowers, drinks or meals when she feel nothing for him.
 
Looks versus intelligence.
My mate, Big Mike is extremely smart and he works in Engineering. Big Mike is short, fat, bald, is aged 35 and looks around 45. He talks about learning Game from books he has read and watching various Pick Up Artist/Dating Coaches that instruct him to approach as many women as possible and stick to the techniques and strategies they teach people like him. He has been rejected countless times and never got any dates. Big Mike says well he is not yet good enough, accepts responsibility and is still trying to improve his Game.

I tell him about my cousin. Brad is aged 18, tall, athletic, and is dating a blonde lingerie model aged 19. Brad did not need to read any books or learn game and did not waste time on nonsense they preach online. Brad's good looks attract women not Game.

Big Mike just tells me that my cousin Brad must have good Game.
 
Definitely personality first for me, then intelligence. Stereotypical good looks are a bonus, but not essential. After all "one man's meat is another man's poison" :)
 
stovo82 said:
Women marry up in terms of looks, intelligence and wealth. Men are told forever by a society that we are not good enough and not entitled to anything and we must do X, Y, Z, etc to attract a woman.

The average guy has to be grateful that a woman that is far less attractive than him dates or marries him. I have seen plenty of average guys around town with women that look far less attractive than them. There is another option that is a man to opt out and not settle for a woman that is far less than him. All this self improvement counts for nothing when it only leads to a woman that does not improve herself.
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That's a pretty misogynistic statement. In your world no "average guy" has ever dated/married a more attractive, intelligent or wealthy woman???

My partner of 8 years is often told (by other men) that I'm out of his league. However my single girlfriend's have often asked me where they can find their copy of him. I tell them to look beyond their typical list of a man who is 6 foot tall & gorgeous for starters. Beauty fades, personality is for life.
 
A man can improve his education level, increase his earnings, improve his fitness, improve his face with plastic surgery, improve his style/fashion but he can not increase his height.
A man less than 6 foot in height, must settle for any woman that comes his way and he must spend all his resources trying to keep her happy and she can always find a taller man.
Taller men have all the advantages in life over shorter men. Taller men earn more, they are regarded as more intelligent and more attractive than shorter men. The world values tall men and scorns short men.
 
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stovo82 said:
A Beta male will take the first woman that comes his way. He has finally found a woman and he will spend all his time and money trying to please her. A Beta male is as quiet as a mouse and he is invisible to people. A Beta male's lack of personality makes him appear less intelligent.

An Alpha male will spend most of his time building his strong physical presence and will act tough all the time and walk around like a body builder/action with a huge ego. Alpha male will never settle down because he has plenty of options. Alpha male is an extrovert with a strong physical presence. His outgoing personality will make him appear more intelligent.
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There's no such thing as an Alpha male lmao
 
Not intelligence or Looks or personality. All sorts of different people mesh some would be considered polar opposites in personality or looks.

It's a persons virtues/values that are really what matter. I value Rationality, Productiveness, and Pride above all else. So no matter how physically or intellectually or even personality wise stimulating a person might be... there will not, and can not be any attraction if their values are antithetical to mine. And vice versa.
 
Intelligence 100%

I've matched with guys on tinder gone our for dinner and they are the dumbest people ever and I'm sorry if I can't hold a conversation with you it's not attractive.

Brains before beauty is the vote from me 💜
 
I am first attracted by a girls eyes, then bone structure, then shape... then conversation, the sharing of self/knowledge... sometimes I can be totally attracted then put off by banal dialogue. .. sometimes lol.
 
stovo82 said:
Looks versus intelligence.
My mate, Big Mike is extremely smart and he works in Engineering. Big Mike is short, fat, bald, is aged 35 and looks around 45. He talks about learning Game from books he has read and watching various Pick Up Artist/Dating Coaches that instruct him to approach as many women as possible and stick to the techniques and strategies they teach people like him. He has been rejected countless times and never got any dates. Big Mike says well he is not yet good enough, accepts responsibility and is still trying to improve his Game.

I tell him about my cousin. Brad is aged 18, tall, athletic, and is dating a blonde lingerie model aged 19. Brad did not need to read any books or learn game and did not waste time on nonsense they preach online. Brad's good looks attract women not Game.

Big Mike just tells me that my cousin Brad must have good Game.
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Big Mike might be book smart ... but lacking in common sense.
 
Looks.
I usually see a person before I speak to them so the initial attraction is always going to be looks.

I’m would still be as attracted to Salma Hayek if she was dumb as a stump as I would be if she was a physics professor.

I’m happy to chat, be friends, have a drink or spend time with a well learned ugly person but no amount of intelligence would make them more attractive.
 
stovo82 said:
A man can improve his education level, increase his earnings, improve his fitness, improve his face with plastic surgery, improve his style/fashion but he can not increase his height.
A man less than 6 foot in height, must settle for any woman that comes his way and he must spend all his resources trying to keep her happy and she can always find a taller man.
Taller men have all the advantages in life over shorter men. Taller men earn more, they are regarded as more intelligent and more attractive than shorter men. The world values tall men and scorns short men.
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What a crock of shit.
 
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