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Why do so many advertisers think it is justified to use fake photos.

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Why do so many advertisers think it is justified to use fake photos.

Article by Custer 15/02/14


Fake photos and services that are promised that end up unfulfilled are used in advertising profiles that appear in certain advertising sites have been a source of frustration for punters. This practice has generated long-standing discussions for many years. Despite the voicing of disapproval from the public in many forums this has carried on and the sites that condone deceiving profiles have been able to sustain. In this article I will reveal some facts that have been exposed by 2 madams that use misleading profiles to give an insight to why this practice is justified from the point of view of the advertisers. And how this has been able to survive for so long.


Advertising sites that contain many of these types of profiles will not be named. I believe that many punters who is reading this article will have experienced times when a picture or the services listed in profiles featured do not match the facade and the experience of the service provider. From studying the long history of discussions in various forums I have seen footage of many threads that point out how most profiles of these types are misleading while a few of them a genuine. One of the profiles that are mentioned to be real from 4 years ago was of a private Perth escort by the name of Singaporean Evonne.


My own experience of this happened often about two years ago. Using the services of outcall escorts was something I frequented at the time. Often I would see a photo of stunning model in her early twenties. I would call the number on the ad and ask if the photo was real. The answer was always yes. Nine out of ten times a driver will turn up with a woman that is much older and looks nothing like the girl in the photo. When this happened I would turn them away. Sometimes I would pay a small fee for the transport. Other times I refused.


Memories and emotions of these experiences stayed with me. And many conversations were had with various people in the sex industry. On two separate occasions I sat down with two madams of Asian brothels and told them about my frustration, and how I sent escorts away if I felt that I have been mislead. On both occasions they showed disapproval of my rejection and spoke of how it was inhumane to do that to women who has travelled so far to make money in such a competitive market. To this day I still do not agree with them. But I am not going to judge them and accept that they view themselves as being right from their perspective.


Agreeing to disagree I moved on from the unsolvable morality debate and asked them why this is done and how it can sustain businesses as it is upsetting a lot of people. I leaned towards the edge of my seat as I listened to their explanation. They explained that there are a very high number of Asian women that come to Australian to work in the sex industry. And with such a high head count not all of them are going to be young and beautiful. A lot of them find it very hard to make sufficient money. So suburban brothels and private girls will use the most outrageously attractive pictures to catch the attention of prospect punters. And that a fact is if 10 men turned up 8 of them would go through with the booking because of the affordable prices, humble expectations, or simply be too shy and be pressured into going ahead with the booking. And 2 walkouts out of 10 are still profitable. As long as some advertising sites accept this sort of practice, advertisers can carry on doing this and profit while the advertising site profits from advertisement fees.


Many other more reputable sites like Langtrees.com and others require verification of photos and profiles before they allow an ad to go public. This ensures that the experience of the viewers is enjoyable and no disgruntles results from misleading experiences.


I am not here to give an opinion of this matter. Some facts are stated and I will leave it up to you to form your own opinion and make an informed decision as to which source of Perth escort advertising you choose to use.
 
are you talking asian escorts??

if so you deserve what you get - there well knmown for fake pics and substandard service

Ive never had fke pics with caucasians

lady i saw today was the one in the pics and service was fine sex 3 times in the 2 hours for $250 pluss a couple of massages and multiple head jobs
 
Well write up custer. Although almost (well, most of senior members here I assume) pretty much already aware of this, this I feel should be worthy enough to be put up as a sticky thread somehow for other new members to read.

Speaking as an Indonesian blood-born, but as an Australian citizen for 15 years and counting, I can relate to the fact that whilst this certainly is annoying and aggravatingly even insulting at times to many clients, including myself (and of course caucasian clients) your bottom line of the fact that it's simply a greater numbers game do come with my full agreement.



It's their culture, and they just keep on practising it.
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I believe that the very one sincere reason as to why a lot of Asian W/Ls do this; is simply this - it is a well-known acquired cultural expectation of many asians - as a surface fact that Australia is to their eyes - considered and immediately seen as a "rich" environment; at least. Whether it be for employment or for welfare - where one can expect barter & gamble for the best away from home. Note the word "barter" and "gamble" I've used here.

It's a cultural expectation from an Asian upbringing that it's their daily part of life - whoever's got the cash everyone just go for it. In which this leads us to the haggling, and bribery economics; which these are again - their way of life. In other words, from their sensibilities - there are no sense of economic morality or ethics in partaking within every thing that's deemed as a business transaction in making sure that both parties are "happy"; either that is fullfilled as a formality or not.

So how does this relate to W/Ls and in this subject? Well, I can only so far suspect; based from my own living early years as an indo boy myself - that bartering and gambling for inferior and falsified goods (yes, that includes services; in public sector) are sadly, the only way what they consider as "ethical", even though that they falsify everything in the hopes of getting closer to be part of the "rich" environment.

Now put this together with the fact that there are HUGE numbers of Asian W/Ls who fake theirs pictures profiles and what not, IN HUGE NUMBERS - then you have a clearer picture - they work together in the hope of increasing the chance/s of taking in the next victim. aka. the poor punters who convinced to go in.

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Well now that for anyone who's still doesn't know what the hell I'm on about - I'd like to conclude it as simply this - as annoying as it is to me and everyone else here, they DO hope to annoy us; in the hope that someone would give in and string along. So in short, they're HOPING to continue practising their way of ethics in advertising through ultimately; falsifying the goods themselves.

And they won't stop, because they work and know each other together well.

Unfortunately and as I too, are profoundly sick of this trend as I fully believe in the standard, truthful and fairness in advertising - it's their culture. And all they want is to keep practising theirs here.

So therefore - F***** idiots to the punters who give in; I know, but hey - life is unfair for all as is.
 
honestman said:
Well write up custer. Although almost (well, most of senior members here I assume) pretty much already aware of this, this I feel should be worthy enough to be put up as a sticky thread somehow for other new members to read.

Speaking as an Indonesian blood-born, but as an Australian citizen for 15 years and counting, I can relate to the fact that whilst this certainly is annoying and aggravatingly even insulting at times to many clients, including myself (and of course caucasian clients) your bottom line of the fact that it's simply a greater numbers game do come with my full agreement.



It's their culture, and they just keep on practising it.
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I believe that the very one sincere reason as to why a lot of Asian W/Ls do this; is simply this - it is a well-known acquired cultural expectation of many asians - as a surface fact that Australia is to their eyes - considered and immediately seen as a "rich" environment; at least. Whether it be for employment or for welfare - where one can expect barter & gamble for the best away from home. Note the word "barter" and "gamble" I've used here.

It's a cultural expectation from an Asian upbringing that it's their daily part of life - whoever's got the cash everyone just go for it. In which this leads us to the haggling, and bribery economics; which these are again - their way of life. In other words, from their sensibilities - there are no sense of economic morality or ethics in partaking within every thing that's deemed as a business transaction in making sure that both parties are "happy"; either that is fullfilled as a formality or not.

So how does this relate to W/Ls and in this subject? Well, I can only so far suspect; based from my own living early years as an indo boy myself - that bartering and gambling for inferior and falsified goods (yes, that includes services; in public sector) are sadly, the only way what they consider as "ethical", even though that they falsify everything in the hopes of getting closer to be part of the "rich" environment.

Now put this together with the fact that there are HUGE numbers of Asian W/Ls who fake theirs pictures profiles and what not, IN HUGE NUMBERS - then you have a clearer picture - they work together in the hope of increasing the chance/s of taking in the next victim. aka. the poor punters who convinced to go in.

-
*IN SHORT*
Well now that for anyone who's still doesn't know what the hell I'm on about - I'd like to conclude it as simply this - as annoying as it is to me and everyone else here, they DO hope to annoy us; in the hope that someone would give in and string along. So in short, they're HOPING to continue practising their way of ethics in advertising through ultimately; falsifying the goods themselves.

And they won't stop, because they work and know each other together well.

Unfortunately and as I too, are profoundly sick of this trend as I fully believe in the standard, truthful and fairness in advertising - it's their culture. And all they want is to keep practising theirs here.

So therefore - F***** idiots to the punters who give in; I know, but hey - life is unfair for all as is.
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A very informative response Honestman. Your request for sticky is granted.
 
Why I think there is fake photos...

If is very hard for women to admit that they are getting older or there body shape has changed...
Most Ladies believe that men will not find them attractive because of the age or size... But in my experience it is the total opposite but it is very hard to change ladies headsets because of all the pressures of the media and peers.
When it comes to the Asian ladies (not all but most) they are very private and believe it or not they are very shy about their body and nudity...
But at the end of the day what they forget is that men or women are going to see them naked and eyes don't lie.....
:):):):):eek::eek::eek::D:D:D:D
 
I have come across so many profiles contain fake photo's - more so at establishments rather than reputable independents. There is one particular brothel that comes to mind in country NSW and every photo used is of swimsuit models from the US. A quick reverse image search confirms this. I guess I'm not a punter as such and prefer to see someone I know and have met in advance. It's why I stick with places like Langtrees and a few Independents that I know but for those that don't I could see it being a real issue.
 
I am a big believer of integrity both in personal and professional dealings. When there is no misleading in the sex industry there will be one less thing for people to create a taboo about.

Is there any valued input other ladies would like to join in and offer?
 
Let's not forget the privacy of the ladies.........I did talk to a few ladies and they were terrified of photos because they thought somebody (brother, brother;s friend etc) might recognise their body on the net. Only because some of us don't show face doesn't mean privacy. somebody might recognise our body shape. I think it is a fair call if girls want to have look alike on the net.
 
Rochelle of Langtrees said:
Let's not forget the privacy of the ladies.........I did talk to a few ladies and they were terrified of photos because they thought somebody (brother, brother;s friend etc) might recognise their body on the net. Only because some of us don't show face doesn't mean privacy. somebody might recognise our body shape. I think it is a fair call if girls want to have look alike on the net.
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I really understand the privacy thing but if you called a plumber to fix a blocked toilet and an accountant rocked up, you'd be pretty annoyed!

I think there are 3 options. No photos, genuine photos showing as much as your comfortable with or admit to using fake photos that at least have some resembelance to you. Blokes will still book you and respect you for it.
 
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Rochelle of Langtrees said:
Let's not forget the privacy of the ladies.........I did talk to a few ladies and they were terrified of photos because they thought somebody (brother, brother;s friend etc) might recognise their body on the net. Only because some of us don't show face doesn't mean privacy. somebody might recognise our body shape. I think it is a fair call if girls want to have look alike on the net.
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The level of privacy retained should be decided on by individual ladies as they have that right. But when punters make an outcall for a 23yo Japanese student and a 45 year old chinese lady turns up that is when people get upset.
 
I guess it's at the advertiser's discretion to use fake look almost alike photos, but if they describe their lovely ladies to be young and vibrant, the ladies better match 80% of that description. Otherwise, it's pretty much false advertising.
 
Custer said:
The level of privacy retained should be decided on by individual ladies as they have that right. But when punters make an outcall for a 23yo Japanese student and a 45 year old chinese lady turns up that is when people get upset.
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True and so they should. But w/ls are business women to start with and word of mouth travels fast especially when it is bad news.........w/ls would be stupid to advertise something or show pics they can't live up to........very very bad for business. So I think the majority out there would be rather honest with description and pics (even when look alike..........and yes for sure there should be a little headline that states look alike.)
 
Rochelle of Langtrees said:
True and so they should. But w/ls are business women to start with and word of mouth travels fast especially when it is bad news.........w/ls would be stupid to advertise something or show pics they can't live up to........very very bad for business. So I think the majority out there would be rather honest with description and pics (even when look alike..........and yes for sure there should be a little headline that states look alike.)
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Totally agree how it is bad for business to sell chalk as cheese. But I disagree on how most are honest. In my report many operators simply get the men through the door and know that most of them will stay. They don't much care for repeat business. The fake profiles turn over like disposable napkins.
 
IMO the fact of ladies use fake photos as most of the time is economic matters!!!!!!
They rather pinch a photo of a bikini model on the web than pay $1000.00 for a good photographer that can make them look like a stunning ladie plus another around $400 on hotel room to get the photoshoot…

Also, bikini's model has a production that takes care and choose the best outfits and accessories.

Talking about privacy… Thats just an excuse as SW can have a blur or a hair, hands on their face to cover it or even shoot from the shoulders to down to keep their privacy….
 
Don't think it is just an excuse. When I started in the industry I felt extremely uncomfortable to have my photo taken and put on the net. I do dislike photos of myself in general so putting them on the net (even without face etc) was a big scary step and not an excuse. I believe a lot of ladies feel the same way.
 
All my photo's are of me, though will admit the photographer would of had fun removing all the bruises on my legs :P Working in the same state that i live in I did ask to have tattoo's and piercings removed from my photo's just in case a friend happened to hop on the website. :P
 
Let's face it people.

The number of completely honest descriptions and photos in sex industry ads could be counted without taking your shoes off and that goes for all the in-house places as a well as the "personals" and online ads.

That is why it is called "punting".

You literally take a gamble every time you play and even if the girl is a knockout physically there is no guarantee she will give you a good time. I will repeat my oft-stated belief that only around 10% of the ladies involved in the Perth sex industry are worth what they charge and I am over trying to find them as the "ante" is now beyond what I am prepared to gamble.
 
svengali said:
Let's face it people.

The number of completely honest descriptions and photos in sex industry ads could be counted without taking your shoes off and that goes for all the in-house places as a well as the "personals" and online ads.

That is why it is called "punting".

You literally take a gamble every time you play and even if the girl is a knockout physically there is no guarantee she will give you a good time. I will repeat my oft-stated belief that only around 10% of the ladies involved in the Perth sex industry are worth what they charge and I am over trying to find them as the "ante" is now beyond what I am prepared to gamble.
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What makes the "ante" beyond a gamble worth taking Svengali? I am genuinely curious.
 
Yoda said:
What makes the "ante" beyond a gamble worth taking Svengali? I am genuinely curious.
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"Ante" is the stake in a poker game and in a casino a punter usually goes to a table where the ante is in the range where he/she can afford the (probable) loss.

In the case of punting in-house and excluding the Asian R & T's the ante at most houses is $400 if you want something approaching sex and $500 at Langtrees both of which are now too much for this punter.

I buy Lotto tickets occasionally and gamble at the casino but cannot justify dropping $400 plus on the off-chance of an hour's fun and games.
 
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I don't mind dropping $300+ for an hour at Esquire, where the odds are so much better than they are at the Casino.
 
Do you think the term ante comes from the Latin ante = before, Svengali, since it is the money you have before you start to play?
 
I agree with you there Svengali. That sort of money is not pocket change for most of us. And I too have occasionally dropped $400+ for a very restricted service that is full of attitude.

That is why most of my punting is a result of enquiring with the forum.
 
And Lingham. I do like Esquire. The hit rate has been high on blind punts when I choose not to walk out.
 
Rochelle of Langtrees said:
Don't think it is just an excuse. When I started in the industry I felt extremely uncomfortable to have my photo taken and put on the net. I do dislike photos of myself in general so putting them on the net (even without face etc) was a big scary step and not an excuse. I believe a lot of ladies feel the same way.
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Sorry Rochelle, I didn't mean to be rude….. I can understand ur point of view but most of the girls that I know don't want to pay a good $ for Good photos….
XXX
 
Yoda said:
I agree with you there Svengali. That sort of money is not pocket change for most of us. And I too have occasionally dropped $400+ for a very restricted service that is full of attitude.

That is why most of my punting is a result of enquiring with the forum.
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Your in for a show Mr Yoda.
Soul Vores
What mood am I in.
Ps
I know your secrets
 
Custer said:
Why do so many advertisers think it is justified to use fake photos.

Article by Custer 15/02/14


Fake photos and services that are promised that end up unfulfilled are used in advertising profiles that appear in certain advertising sites have been a source of frustration for punters. This practice has generated long-standing discussions for many years. Despite the voicing of disapproval from the public in many forums this has carried on and the sites that condone deceiving profiles have been able to sustain. In this article I will reveal some facts that have been exposed by 2 madams that use misleading profiles to give an insight to why this practice is justified from the point of view of the advertisers. And how this has been able to survive for so long.


Advertising sites that contain many of these types of profiles will not be named. I believe that many punters who is reading this article will have experienced times when a picture or the services listed in profiles featured do not match the facade and the experience of the service provider. From studying the long history of discussions in various forums I have seen footage of many threads that point out how most profiles of these types are misleading while a few of them a genuine. One of the profiles that are mentioned to be real from 4 years ago was of a private Perth escort by the name of Singaporean Evonne.


My own experience of this happened often about two years ago. Using the services of outcall escorts was something I frequented at the time. Often I would see a photo of stunning model in her early twenties. I would call the number on the ad and ask if the photo was real. The answer was always yes. Nine out of ten times a driver will turn up with a woman that is much older and looks nothing like the girl in the photo. When this happened I would turn them away. Sometimes I would pay a small fee for the transport. Other times I refused.


Memories and emotions of these experiences stayed with me. And many conversations were had with various people in the sex industry. On two separate occasions I sat down with two madams of Asian brothels and told them about my frustration, and how I sent escorts away if I felt that I have been mislead. On both occasions they showed disapproval of my rejection and spoke of how it was inhumane to do that to women who has travelled so far to make money in such a competitive market. To this day I still do not agree with them. But I am not going to judge them and accept that they view themselves as being right from their perspective.


Agreeing to disagree I moved on from the unsolvable morality debate and asked them why this is done and how it can sustain businesses as it is upsetting a lot of people. I leaned towards the edge of my seat as I listened to their explanation. They explained that there are a very high number of Asian women that come to Australian to work in the sex industry. And with such a high head count not all of them are going to be young and beautiful. A lot of them find it very hard to make sufficient money. So suburban brothels and private girls will use the most outrageously attractive pictures to catch the attention of prospect punters. And that a fact is if 10 men turned up 8 of them would go through with the booking because of the affordable prices, humble expectations, or simply be too shy and be pressured into going ahead with the booking. And 2 walkouts out of 10 are still profitable. As long as some advertising sites accept this sort of practice, advertisers can carry on doing this and profit while the advertising site profits from advertisement fees.


Many other more reputable sites like Langtrees.com and others require verification of photos and profiles before they allow an ad to go public. This ensures that the experience of the viewers is enjoyable and no disgruntles results from misleading experiences.


I am not here to give an opinion of this matter. Some facts are stated and I will leave it up to you to form your own opinion and make an informed decision as to which source of Perth escort advertising you choose to use.
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I think the name of this thread is spot on:

Why do so many advertisers think it is justified to use fake photos.

the key word here is ADVERTISERS using fakes, this issue in my opinion has got nothing to do with WL's being shy, or security or privacy issues, a WL advertising on this forum doesn't have to use real pics FULL STOP! I think there is nothing wrong with a WL or shop using fake pictures or pictures of similar girls in their advertising on this forum AS LONG AS THEY MENTION IT IS A SIMILAR PIC OR AVATAR.

Its all about respecting the forum members.

I recently found pics of japanese AV porn star that looked strangely familiar to me and i wasn't sure why until i remembered i see her picture in an ad on this forum for a popular AMP girl. when i raised this issue on the thread for that shop the thread disappeared and was replaced with the same type of thread except with 2015 added. really????

lets remember the thread needs advertisers but it doesn't exist without members....................
 
Personally for me being a little curvier than most i find it more beneficial to advertise myself accordingly and not try and make out like im tiny and petite with a photo advertising me as that.
I worked at an escort agency in perth before working at Langtrees and they would just ask what the client was after and if we didn't have a girl fitting that description they would still say yes and send what ever girl was available at the time and i find that only results in loss of business for the agency and possible the girl if they refuse to see them. I would prefer a client who loves curves and in turn loves the curves i have it always makes my bookings a lot more fun for me and the clients.
I do understand the privacy of it all though and can definitely see it from that point of view to.

P
Xo
 
what about the issue of being public in the industry.. isnt this why most girls cut off either their heads or use look alikes???!!........ privacy.
 
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