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WA Porter has made enough amendments to get this bill passed

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Howard Porter has made enough amendments to the bill to get it passed.
It is still very hostile to the private operator, so the privates need to get some lobbying action going otherwise they will be forced into working underground or as dating only ladies.
As soon as \i get a copy \i will post, \i have just been told they are going to restrict all phone numbers to land lines.
Now I don't agree with these things but as I will not go for a licence and turn Langtrees into a short time hotel as it is zoned as a adult entertainment center, the privates have two to three weeks to get out their and meet the politicians and present their cases. Anyone that wants help to start are welcome to call me,0406 514 793
 
I hope the private girls take up the opportunity to lobby as it these changes appear to be quite restrictive by the sounds of things....
 
Thats really good of you to be there for the privates as many wouldn't know where to start when it comes to things like that. I myself would have no idea. Might have to give you a call if I get stuck in future on how to go about doing private business.
 
The advertised number will be very easy to overcome as you can get a pie in the sky landline number with up to a 10 minute message to tell the client about yourself and give out on this your mobile, i don't think they will able to legislate they can't be used, only they can't be advertised.
 
If they are not allowed to operate in private residences very very restrictive. The landline idea will stop a lot from renting hotels and motels.Unless they get out personally visit the liberals who have a conscience vote I think they are in for hard times.
 
We are in for hard times :(
It angers me that a few narrow-minded pollies and member's of the community
feel they have the right to make decisions like this that are
going to impact many worker's source of income.
We are real people, with real lives and a REAL job,
What right have they to fuck with it :(

What are you suggesting we do, Maryanne that will have an impact
to stop this happening?
 
Not all worker's are bold and out there about their job,
due to judgement and particularly with these proposed laws,
How much harder is going to be if the laws come into place,
if we've outed ourselves. I'd like to be part of lobbying but
the fact that there is a lot of judgement already and potential
consequences later, I'm not sure
I feel I could show myself in person as I'm a very private person,
so what does the discrete worker do to have their say ?
 
maryanne said:
Howard Porter has made enough amendments to the bill to get it passed.
As soon as \i get a copy \i will post, \i have just been told they are going to restrict all phone numbers to land lines.
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Significant changes to the Prostitution Bill 2011 based on public consultation

Enforcement

 The Bill now prohibits mobile telephone numbers from advertisements for prostitution businesses.

 The Bill now expressly prohibits escorts and escort agencies rather than using conditions attached to licences to prevent escort services.

Licensing

 To enhance the likelihood of businesses and individuals operating within the licensed system, the Bill now provides that individuals who wish to work as prostitutes may either:

apply to the licensing authority for a licence which will permit the person to work at a prostitution business where an operator holds a valid operator’s licence without providing further identifying information; or

to work for one or more prostitution businesses where the operator holds a valid operator’s licence without a prostitution licence, in which case the operator is responsible for obtaining from the applicant proof of age and residency status.

 The Bill now stipulates that following the first renewal of an operator’s licence (which will be after three years of operation) where they have not been convicted of any offence an operator may seek to be licensed to operate up to two more prostitution businesses. Because the overall number of licences to be issued in the State will be limited, this will encourage lawful behaviour within the licensed system.

 The Green Bill set out restrictions as to the number of staff who could be present at any time. This has been amended so that the number of staff and rooms is not specified in the Bill but may be restricted through conditions attached to the licence.

Health, Welfare and Protecting Vulnerable People

 The Green Bill prohibited a prostitution business from operating from licensed premises that serve alcohol. This has been expanded to prohibit an operator or manager of a prostitution business from providing alcohol to clients or permitting clients to bring alcohol onto the premises.

 Access to the identifying information of prostitutes will be restricted and brothel operators will be penalised for misuse of personal information. The penalty will be five years imprisonment on indictment and three years imprisonment for a summary offence.

 The Bill includes a new provision to establish a special fund to finance services to assist individuals who wish to leave the prostitution industry who may need help in the areas of education, training, employment, accommodation, financial management, alcohol and drug addiction or other issues. The fund will also assist WA Police target unlawful prostitution. The fund will be equivalent to a percentage of license fees, and those fines or penalties paid under the Bill and will be determined by regulation.

 The Bill now clarifies that workers of health and welfare organisations are able to enter a place where prostitutes are suspected of working unlawfully without risk of prosecution.

 The Bill now provides that when making an application for an operator’s licence or a self-employed prostitute’s licence, a person must set out the proposed action required to maintain sexual health, and to ensure no drug use is occurring on the premises. Failure to comply with such a plan will constitute grounds for a licence of a prostitute, manager or operator to be suspended or cancelled.

Planning and Development Controls

 The Green Bill included a provision to allow the CEO of the licensing authority to limit the number of each kind of
licence. The Bill now stipulates that the number of each type of licence, and the areas in which they will be issued will be limited by regulation. This will provide Parliament with direct oversight over how many prostitution businesses are permitted to operate in Western Australia. The definition of ‘residential area’ has been clarified, and the Bill now states that, in addition to the prohibition on prostitution businesses in ‘residential areas’, the planning authority must not approve a prostitution business in an area that it considers to have a significant number of residential dwellings.

 The Bill now clarifies that local governments can make a submission to the Minister seeking a no licence area order.

 The Bill now provides that approval for an existing business to continue to operate is to be contingent upon local government agreement
 
Labor stated they wont support it and two back benchers are undecided. Don't they have to have full support to get it passed????????????
 
maryanne said:
Howard Porter has made enough amendments to the bill to get it passed.
It is still very hostile to the private operator, so the privates need to get some lobbying action going otherwise they will be forced into working underground or as dating only ladies.
As soon as \i get a copy \i will post, \i have just been told they are going to restrict all phone numbers to land lines.
Now I don't agree with these things but as I will not go for a licence and turn Langtrees into a short time hotel as it is zoned as a adult entertainment center, the privates have two to three weeks to get out their and meet the politicians and present their cases. Anyone that wants help to start are welcome to call me,0406 514 793
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Just one little thing Maryanne Howard Porter manufacture road transport equipment You meant Christian Porter Attorney General,
 
Escorts Australian said:
Labor stated they wont support it and two back benchers are undecided. Don't they have to have full support to get it passed????????????
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I thought so but Porter is running a pretty aggressive campaign to get this bill passed.

This kind of comment is a little un-nerving

"The reason I'm confident it will pass is because people who stand in the way of the legislation passing are going to have to go back into their electorates and explain to the people living in their electorates why it is that they voted against a bill that could shut a brothel down in a suburban street," he said. Full report here
 
Vanessa I agree with you but to date the private has put no resources into addressing this issue and showing they are sensible business woman. I believe no private put in a submission.It is up to the privates to get out and meet the politicians and in numbers 5 to 6 girls need to make a appointment with every politician over the next few weeks if they want changes.If they can't be bothered they are going to lose out.
 
We need all of labour plus 4 votes to defeat this bill. I have canvassed the politicans and National was against the bill so where two of the four independents. The problem is Porter has conceded a lot of points and I think enough to get the vote.I truly hope I am wrong, but now is not the time to bitch it is time to get organized.
The phone number is easy get a pie in the sky land line for advertising that you leave a message with your mobile on.
I haven't seen how they are going to cover escorts, they will send the industry underground if they try to stamp them out entirely which would be a good point for the privates to lobby.
 
where and how do we start lobbying and is anyone else interested in helping??
 
Vanessa I believe the only chance the privates have is get together in groups of six and go and meet the politicians. Politicians are people that genuinely care about people in general. They need to meet the individuals that work in the industry after 30 years they are sick of me, and only a handful of madams have even put in a submission.
Our industry is lazy about these issues, without direct lobbying to the politicians by the ladies and clients of the industry we haven't much of a chance.
I have always supported legislation if we can have a level playing field for all parts of the industry...these changes are certainly not a level playing field and it will be bad for the industry if it is forced underground.
 
Sex workers should be officially registered as sex workers. Brothels belong in contained industrial areas & entertainment districts. Brothels are not wanted in residential areas or next to schools, child care centres or hospitals.

The sex worker law reforms do not go far enough. The Liberal Party are making the right decision for the best interests of the community. They will make more reforms when they win an increased majority at the next State election.
 
MAk- ABC news said you support the legislation even though it would make langtrees illegal? You would support this even though it would shut you down?
 
Unless you have been in the industry you would never understand it.I have been in this industry for many moons and like what I am doing.I have other qualifications however I choose this proffesion for many reasons.I find it unfair that normal hardworking tax paying individuals are being punished/persicuted for our chosen profession it stinks why cant people just let us be.
 
Anyone willing to lobby for the privates??I too like discetion however this is our livelyhood ladies and we should fight for our rights!!!!!!
 
I would support legislation that was a level playing field even if it shut me down...I am getting long in the tooth and would have many more options for my property what about a strip club???
 
I will hold my views until I can read the bill, I believe it is still hostile and they are making a protectionist society like the old containment.
 
My understanding after talking to a few people today... Mr Porter is very determine to get this bill passed.... I have been around the industry for many years and been through all the different containment but this legislation is the most unreasonable and hostile that I have ever seen.... If you have a chance to lobby please do it as it will only benefit yourself..... :police:
 
I like the idea of a strip club.... Can I be in charge of the alcohol...... Please...lol....:occasion14
 
How is langtrees in a residential zone when it is amongst industrial?

Is Mr Porter religious or associated with religion groups?
 
Its high rise commercial residential and within 100 meters of river view church I did read in the amendments existing brothels will be subject to council and they may give me 5 years until the area starts to change.
 
Private girls this is one of the reasons i Started the Private and Independent Girls Network Group for us to be able to support each other.

I have a meeting with Magenta next week for this reason to find out what I could do...I have been compiling alot of information to put together a proposal document and petitiion.

Anyone interested in getting together PM me or even better add to the Private and Independent Girls Networking Group on this forum and we can arrange a place/time to meet early next week.

I understand people want to be annonyms BUT how much do you want to stay being Independent....TIME TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES ....we deserve better treatment!!!

Thanks Maryanne

**the landline proposal is total CRAP, all that needs to be done is have the trquired landline and ALL service providers provide a free call forwarding service so the landline can be anywhere and the girl just has to switch to CF and goes direct to her mobile......so she can work anywhere!!
 
I have read thru the changes and many of these I put in my submission...the right to operate multiple after proving one self was one.
What they haven't given an inch on is the right for privates to work from home as they have been historically doing for centuries.
As I have said the privates need to get out their activate the woman's groups who will support them...if they know they exists and can actually see them face to face.
 
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