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XLNC said:
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lol that's were I parked my boat
 
XLNC said:
So when is the WA secession referendum going to be held? You know, since folks in the West seem so sick and tired of propping up the rest of the country. ;)
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This an old Furphy which keeps rearing its head. Like the Scots we feel separate from the rest of the country but would you rather live in one economically strong country or two weak ones? Yes, we would get to keep all that lovely loot from mining and the G.S.T. but as a sovereign country we would have to provide our own defence forces and that alone would take the gloss off it. Throw in the loss of Federal grants to local Government, Education and Health and it looks even less attractive.

With the mining construction boom we have been doing very well for the past 10 years or so but construction is easing and giving way to production which, while more valuable economically, provides fewer jobs so population and economic growth will slow over the next few years.

Let us also not forget that for a very long time and not so long ago W.A. was the poor cousin. We were the farmers and our economy was propped up by the manufacturing powerhouses of New South Wales and Victoria.

Anyway, we Australians are a conservative lot and a radical change like succession would never get off the ground - we can't even let go of the links to the British royalty.
 
I dont like this . But I have to agree with svengali
Then when we had the nation of Western ----? The Northern half of the state would start wanting to secede All these people from Perth they take our iron ore profits They come up here and take our jobs While locals cant work in the mines because its all FIFO Lets secede we are the power house of this nation

One little thing though Sven
WE ? were the farmers Thought you were a city boy?
 
Lets just say we're a sentimental bunch that hold on to tradition like a lamb to its mother's tits...It's firmly latched on and can never be separated...Baaaa baaa baaaa....
 
Not a good analogy Homer Your lamb roast is seperated from mum pretty easily A bit of bleating on the way to the abbotoir but nothing your taste buds and belly wont gloss over
And mum? Sad for a day or two then its back to life as per usual
 
Sheepishly Sad that is...unfortunately they don't have the intellect nor the head to stand up for their young. Baaa baaa baaa is all that they can bleat out. No matter how hard a spank they get. They need PETA for protection...
 
Pardon me Sheeplish Engrish...I speak broken Baaa's...please do forgive me for swearing at ya unknowingly and without knowledge. *ahem*
 
WA is the same deal as Scotland, it all sounds great until the dust settles. In Scotland, once the oil is gone then all there is there is whisky, golf and tourism, which won't cut any mustard. In WA we have 2.4M people I guess, so if we had our own country we'd need to import somebody to do all that governing rubbish. The problem is obvious now, China has a cold, iron ore is in the toilet and other minerals are cheap. Farming is great when it rains and terrible when its drought.

My view is we need to fight a fair fight and get a sensible cut of the total loot pile, so we can spend it on our favourite things.....like sex!!!!!!!!
 
I was, of course, being facetious in raising the WA question, but glad to hear common sense and pragmatism prevails (on this forum anyway). All these regions in foreign countries, especially Europe, wanting to break away (Catalonia from Spain, Corsica from France, Sardinia from Italy, etc.) just seem so short-sighted. Unless there are long-running serious, irreconcilable problems (e,g, South Sudan which became the world's newest country a few years ago, possibly Jammu & Kashmir from India but that is fuelled by interference from another country, Russia's northern Caucasus republics but there are other issues at play there too), it makes little sense for a small part of an otherwise well-off peaceful nation to secede and, as has been mentioned, establish a robust new governance structure for all the services provided currently by the feds. :rolleyes:
 
Nationalism is outdated..........or so it should be. All those mini nations in Europe and Former Soviet Union are hangovers from the cold war. I don't care what people are or where they are coming from....we are all humans in the first place. Guess we need an alien invasion before we forget about small minded and mind limiting national identity.
 
Rochelle of Langtrees said:
Nationalism is outdated...
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You mean except when it comes to the Ashes, of course.

I patronisingly snigger at your endearing idealism and charming naïveté. ;)

We are an inherently tribal, selfish and competitive species and, perhaps until a comet with serious ELE potential is identified as hurling towards us or aliens as you suggest, there are few things on which the majority of the world's peoples will ever truly and genuinely unite as one. :(
 
that's Homer after we got him finally out of the embrace of the monster squid and back on the beach..........
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he was still alive.....lucky us........so we decided to move him to safer grounds a bit away from the ocean..........we even dressed him properly.........

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Happy 2 decided to join Homer on the bench (it was really hard work).........

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Honestly XLNC I do think there won't be another way to move forward than getting over our nationalistic selves. The internet and the ability to have the world on a press of a button has certainly something to do with it. Plus I do believe that the so called first world countries will have to learn to share with less fortunated countries.
(thanks for the charming naivete.......but I am afraid this has nothing to do with it) :)........unless they (the so called first world countries) like to go to war for certain resources.
Time will tell.

 
hehehehehe Homer.......I could say something now put sometimes it is a good thing to keep things to yourself ;) (German diplomacy)
 
Coincidentally, after my previous post in this thread, I happened to watch These Final Hours. For those who haven't seen it, it is a recent Australiian movie set in Perth during the end of the world due to (what I deduced was) a comet having impacted Earth in the North Atlantic. As the ripple of fire and brimstone inexorably races towards the city, the movie portrayed people turning on each other and satisfying their basic instincts, with life and the law rapidly losing all value (though the main protagonist tries to redeem himself by helping a little girl reunite with her father).

When you recall what occurred after Hurricane Katrina in Louisana less than a decade ago, it is not hard to imagine this scenario unfolding as the thin veneer of civilisation is stripped away and it can be a bit depressing. Of course, if there had been a chance to stop the comet from hitting the planet through a united global effort, it might have been a more optimistic film.

While I have faith in human beings on average, I think we have a way to go before we evolve beyond our primitive tribal (nationalistic) instincts.
 
Ah, tribalism!! My favourite fruit and the basis of most of mankind's problems.

I wonder, worldwide, how much human energy and scarce resources are wasted on squabbling over issues which do not matter? Just look at Australia for a starter.

How many political parties do we have? Even if we divide them roughly into left and right there is still a helluva lot of parliamentary time wasted on mindless opposition. Right proposes something Left opposes it. Kneejerk reaction. Horse-trading, media posturing and colourful quotes follow. Eventually something halfway happens which satisfies nobody and may or may not be the best outcome.

Want to start a major project? Cue opposition from the Greenies, doesn't matter what benefits will flow to whom it is developement so it is bad bad bad. If it is mining then the Aboriginal lobby will try and hold it to ransom over some dreamtime story probably made up to fit the occasion. Unions will weigh in with unrealistic demands on behalf of their members. Never have I seen a rational, intelligent discussion centred on the issue itself.

The closest we have come to that is the bipartisan support Labor has offered to the Government over its dealing with the current scare over Islamic State (Yes, a serious external threat) and even that has caused rumblings in parts of the Muslim community.

Read the last sentence above - I did it again. "The Muslim Community!"

There is also the Aboriginal Community the Greek/Italian/Serbian/Afghan/Whoeverelse community. No harm in that. Embracing all cultures and beliefs is the mark of a socially developed community but everyone who lives in this country should be Australian first and any other loyalty, be it religious or political, should be in second place.
 
And there are tribes (factions) within tribes (parties) too, of course, so internecine warfare is hardly surprising as a certain major Australian political party can attest. Autobiographies at ten paces -- the modern duel.
 
"There is also the Aboriginal Community the Greek/Italian/Serbian/Afghan/Whoeverelse community. No harm in that. Embracing all cultures and beliefs is the mark of a socially developed community but everyone who lives in this country should be Australian first and any other loyalty, be it religious or political, should be in second place."

...............what does it mean "being Australian?".........is it a birth right? or a loyalty question? or depends on the fact that you live in Australia? or eat certain types of food?
 
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