Remember your childhood Perth style! Yes, it's reminiscing!

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Stumbled across this while doing my weird and wonderful research, thought I'd share it with some of you.

Remembering your childhood Perth Style
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:07:28 +0800


Hi David

We must have been in the same year at Mt Lawley High School.

Remember the fish and chip shop around the corner from Highgate where you
could buy a pile of batter crisps and potato scallops.
or the Pie shop on the corner of 2nd Ave and Beaufort St, if you could
escape from school at lunch time , The pies had Worcester sauce and spices
and melted cheese on top. Food particularly something different , from meat
and vegies and the Sunday roast, was important. Roast chicken was a special
event, usually meaning one of the hens had stopped laying and was generally
only had at Christmas.

As to driveins , the Western night each Wednesday night at the Skyline. In
the early 60s in Albany - we used to go to the drives on our scooters-
Vespa 125 , top speed 35mph (60kph) down hill. and set up camp in the first
aisle, lying on the ground.

Making canoes from corrugated iron , by beating out the corrugations with a
hammer , much to the neighbours delight and making up hill trolleys to
transport them, from timber with ball bearing wheels and then rumble all
the way from second ave Mt Lawley to Maylands - East Street , where we used
to sail them. Outriggers were old kerosine drums on sticks a later
development was a stick mast with a sail from an old old chook feed bag or
similar. Down wind was great coming back up wind was a bit hard.

What about the hill trolleys. bits of timber with a box at the rear , the
best wheels you could scrounge , as money was in short supply , a bit of
rope for steering and a foot as a brake - foot brake - although a later
development was a pivoting piece of timber to the ground to act as a brake
, which would cause the vehicle to swerve in the direction of the brake. We
used to hurtle down the gravel roads in Killarney St Kalgoorlie at a fair
rate. To come to grief was not good , but just meant you tried not to do it
again.

Visits to the Doctor were few and far between , The Chemist was usually the
first and only call , Doctors were only for having babies, operations and
broken bones - maybe.

Later : Talking of crystal sets , remember the next advancement the
Gernanian (??) Diode , an earlier transistor - prior to printed circuits
and long before chips, allowed radio reception without the tweeking
necessary with the crystal. The long antennae going to the roof top or the
clothes lines. All the war surplus radio parts available was it from Handy
Andy's at the top end of Hay St or Murray St.

Christmas and other decorations made from the milk bottle tops. A milk
bottle spread carefully over a penny could almost make two bob - two
shillings - florin.

Nestle's cream in small cans.

Hamburgers at Bernies , Mounts Bay Road.
Friday night movies at the Astor in Mt Lawley and the Saturday matinees
with Jungle Jim , Superman, Tarzan and other similar quality movies !!
Maltesers rolling down the timber floors.

All this talk of deck chairs reminds me of the early 60's when I ran the
movies in Kununurra on a voluntary basis and during the summer or wet
season we had a rule that if the projectionist couldn't see the movie on
the screen because of the rain , we would cancel and re run it next night.
We would receive massive falls of rain and the audience would just sit out
in it , because they were already soaked. Playing golf next to the Ord
River with wild steers and crocodiles as obstacles. Swimming with
crocodiles - now considered hazardous. This opens up a whole new line of
memories for me.

Watching TV in the store fronts when it first started and very few
household had a unit.

Early tape recorders , almost too heavy to lift and four inch reels.

Holidays at Quinns Beach , in a fisherman's hut, water from a manual pump ,
thunderbox toilet etc. Travel in over a very sandy track was usually in
convoy with one vehicle carrying a load of old plasterboard or similar to
cover the worst sections. Once on site there was no going back until the
holiday was over. Everything had to be taken in , in one trip.


This started out with the first line and has sorta grown . Anyhow its
brought a lurker out of the shadows.

David Ammon
Perth Western Australia
 
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Anyone remember:

1. The UFO spaceship on the corner of Karel Avenue along Leach Highway?
2. Bernies the burger joint - the original one - at the bottom of Kings Park on Mounts Bay Road? I actually knew guys in the early 80s who were so bored in Bunbury at night, they'd drive in their panel van all the way to Perth to Bernies or Fast Eddies, then on the corner of Hay Street and Milligans.
3. Van's - the burger joint opposite the Cottesloe Hotel?
4. Eats - also a greasy spoon on Stirling Highway?
5. Hamburger Hill on the top of that slope at Burswood?
6. The original Cicerello's run by the old Italian couple on the wharf pre-America's cup - just 3 large concrete boxes which had been there for years?
7. "Greasies" - really called the Hollywood Deli on the corner of Hampden Road in Nedlands? Many uni students would before 1989.
8. Perth on Sundays when the only place open was the Freo Markets and a handful of small delis and petrol stations were rostered?
9. Perth DIED on Saturday afternoons after the shops closed - only fastfood places and the cinemas were open?
10. Being broke as a student and filling your car up with $1 or $2 of petrol and that would see you through a couple of days?
11. Everyone had a bomb and it wasn't embarrasing to drive one, especially if you were a student?
12. When your driver's licence was a piece of paper. Youngsters would borrow one from a licenced friend and buy liquor from the store?
13. Pinocchio's?
14. Beethoven's?
15. Angies Disco for teenagers in North Freo?
16. Minsky's in Nedlands?
17. Steve's the pub?
18. The Red Parrot?
 
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Tania Admin

I moved to Perth when I was 14, I remember the UFO, Bernie's (they had great burgers), Hamburger Hill was good to, Pinnochio's anything goes show was awesome fun (I started going there when I was ummm underage), The Red Parrot was great fun to, Dan Dan the Hot Dog Man (Outside a lot of the Perth nightclubs, I actually worked in the van for a while), Mangoes, Jules, Limbos,,,on weekends the Hay Street Mall had families going to movies or strolling through the mall for walks on warm nights.

Just a few memories as a contribution.
:)
 
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Ah yes, Mangoes - one time haunt of the older mature woman and equally old men on the prowl long before it was an affectionate reference to a certain species of feline.

The Silver Slipper anyone remember that?

January's? The Underground, now sadly a backpackers, in Newcastle Street. The Red Lion, now known as the Deen with a different clientele.

Jules!!! The first time I ever pulled - she was a student from Nedlands College. I was a randy student at UWA.

Anyone remember going to concerts at the old Perth Arena or at restaurants in NOrthbridge - a couple of people would come in and offer to take photographs for a fee? Some would just snap you and give you a card in the hope you'd want a pic anyway.

F. Scotts! Anyone remember?

The Savoy Cinema in Hay Street used to show R rated movies as did the New Oxford Cinema (now known as the Luna Leederville). The New Oxford had an occasional stripper at lunchtime as did the Barrack Street adult cinema. These were the days before digital watches so a guy would come in and announce the times at 12 and 1 and 2 so no one would be late returning to work!

There used to be a drivein cinema (ah yes, the old passion pit!) at Bickley that showed R rated movies. Can't remember the name.

Nightspots in town would grant free entry to the visiting US navy.
 
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F Scotts, that's where all the oldies used to go. The Underground that was just up the road from Adinas where I also worked on reception many years ago, I'm still close friends with Lynne who was the Madame back then.

Murray Street before it was a Mall, Northbridge before all the violence....Oh the Hypodrome (I loved that night club).

Wow now the memories come flooding.

The Harbourside in Freo (ummm especially when the sailors were in)...The sailors coming into Perth, doesn't seem to happen as much these days.
 
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There were theatre supper clubs:

La Tenda in Vic Park I think
Dirty Dicks (seriously!) in Wembley
Max Kay's supper club in Inglewood I think, along Beaufort Street
The Scarlet Garter - Massage Parlour/Brothel
Cleopetra's - opposite the Perth Mint
Happy Haven
There were even Roller Discos! ONe was opposite Fast Eddy's.
Lisa's Retreat
A gay sauna called Vic's behind some factories in Roe Street. I gather Vic died two years ago of cancer and ran a similar establishment along Beaufort Street in Mount Lawley.
HOlden Kingswoods were still fairly common and almost every car had a roo bar!
In 1985, Swan Brewery sold a new type of dishwater called Swan Light - but it made a mint until better forms came along.
 
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And here's an excerpt of an oral history interview done with a guy called Ron Frank

RON FRANK: From about 1948 until the late ‘70s, early ‘80s. Dad has been dead about seven years now, he died in
2001. I followed my father’s footsteps and my mother’s footsteps, they were both tradespeople, I became a tradesman and I
worked initially at the Department of Civil Aviation which was in the old Maylands area and we used to spend our recreation
years exploring the James Street, Northbridge area. This was very decadent and very pleasurable for a young man. Us
apprentices used to congregate around the Northbridge area which was the early night club scene area of Perth, Western
Australia, long gone clubs like the 28 Club and Rip Roarer and European Club, the old Travattore and later years the Zanzibar,
just to name but a few, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, all around the Northbridge area. Northbridge was the place to be seen and if you
were with the with it crowd who were in Northbridge. I spent many years doing social photography around the clubs of
Northbridge, in and out of all the clubs, taking pictures. I made more money taking pictures than I did at my trade. It was quite
interesting, we would go into a club, we would interview the prospective customer, we would take ten shillings off them, take a
photograph and it would be posted out to them the following day. It was a lot of fun, saw a lot of good things and watched Perth
grow from a village into quite a respectable industrious town which it is today. In those years we were too young to understand the
politics of it all and as we have got into retirement age we have come to realise that the whole world revolves around the politics of
it and from what I understand, even this documenting and recording of our current history is being funded by a group of politicians
so that our children can review and check where they have come from.
 
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I am genuinely surprised Tania that you and I are the only ones contributing to this thread. Oh well, guess we're older than most. When I was in Perth in the 80s, the furthest suburb was called Beldon. It's now MIDWAY between Perth and Butler!

I vaguely recall there was a brothel, never went there myself (truly), called Jade or Jade's in Angove Street North Perth.
 
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Service Stations where you ACTUALLY got service and didn't have to fill your tank yourself.

Little triangular signs on busy traffic junctions proclaiming "Roster" as petrol stations were rostered on when they were open.
 
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Wikipedia:

Eric Edgar Cooke nicknamed The Night Caller (25 February 1931 – 26 October 1964) was an Australian serial killer. From 1959 to 1963, he terrorised the city of Perth, Western Australia, by committing 22 violent crimes, eight of which resulted in deaths Early lifeEric Cooke was born on 25 February 1931 in Victoria Park, a suburb of Perth, and was the eldest of three children.[2]

Cooke was born into an unhappy, violent family; his parents married solely because his mother was pregnant with him, and his alcoholic father beat him frequently, especially when the boy tried to protect his mother from the elder Cooke's drunken rages.[3] Cooke was frequently hospitalized for head injuries and had suspected brain damage. He also suffered from recurrent headaches and was once admitted to an asylum.[2]

Cooke was born with a hare lip and a cleft palate, for which he had one operation when he was three months old and another when he was 3½. Surgical operations to repair the deformities were not totally successful, and left him with a slight facial deformity, and he spoke in a mumble; these handicaps made him the target of bullying at school.[4] He left school at 14 to work in order to support the family. As a teenager, Cooke spent his nights involved in petty crimes and vandalism; he would later serve 18 months in jail for burning down a church after he was rejected in a choir audition.[5] At the age of 18, Cooke was sentenced to three years in prison after being arrested for arson and vandalism.[3]

At the age of 21, Cooke joined the regular Australian Army, but was discharged three months later after it was discovered that, before enlistment, he had had a juvenile record for theft, breaking and entering, and arson.[2]

On 14 October 1953, Cooke, then aged 22, married Sarah (Sally) Lavin, a 19-year-old waitress, at the Methodist Church in Cannington.[2] They had seven children.

Cooke was arrested several times as a "peeping tom" and for other minor offences. In 1955 he was arrested for stealing a car and sentenced to two years hard labour. After his release, he took to wearing woman's gloves while committing crimes to avoid leaving fingerprints.[3]

[edit] MurdersCooke's killing spree involved a series of seemingly unrelated hit and runs, stabbings, stranglings and shootings. Victims were shot with several different rifles, stabbed with knives and scissors, and hit with an axe. Several were killed after waking as Cooke was robbing their homes; two were shot while sleeping without their homes being disturbed; and one was shot dead after answering a knock on the door. After stabbing one victim, Cooke got lemonade from the refrigerator and sat on the verandah drinking it. One victim was strangled to death with the cord from a bedside lamp, after which Cooke raped the corpse, dragged it to a neighbour’s lawn and sexually penetrated it with an empty whiskey bottle, which he left cradled in her arms.

During the 1960s, people in Australia frequently left cars unlocked and/or with the keys in the ignition, which enabled Cooke to steal a car almost every night. He sometimes returned stolen vehicles without the owners becoming aware of the theft, including several cars involved in hit and runs.

The police investigation included fingerprinting more than 30,000 males over the age of 12, as well as locating and test-firing more than 60,000 .22 rifles.[6] After a rifle was found hidden in a Geraldton Wax bush in Rookwood Avenue, Mount Pleasant in August 1963, Ballistic tests proved the gun to have been used in the murder Shirley McLeod. Police returned to the location and tied a similar rifle, rendered inoperable, to the bush with fishing line and constructing a hide in which they waited in case someone returned for it; Cooke was apprehended when he returned to collect the weapon 17 days later.

Cooke confessed to several crimes, including eight murders and 14 attempted murders.[5] He was convicted on a charge of murdering John Lindsay Sturkey, one of Cooke's five Australia Day (1963) shooting victims.[7] In his confessions, Cooke demonstrated an exceptionally good memory for the details of his crimes irrespective of how long ago he had committed the offences. For example, he confessed to more than 250 burglaries and was able to detail exactly what he took, including the number and denominations of the coins he had stolen from each location.

Cooke pleaded not guilty on the grounds of insanity. At trial, Cooke's lawyers claimed that he suffered from schizophrenia, but this claim was dismissed after the director of the state mental health services testified that he was sane. The state would not allow independent psychiatric specialists to examine Cooke.[2] Cooke was convicted of willful murder on 28 November 1963 after a three-day trial by jury in the Supreme Court of Western Australia before Justice Virtue. He was sentenced to death by hanging and, despite having grounds to appeal, he ordered his lawyers not to apply, claiming that he deserved to pay for what he had done. Ten minutes before the sentence was carried out, on 26 October 1964, Cooke swore on the Bible that he had killed Jillian Brewer and Rosemary Anderson, claims which had been previously rejected as others had already been convicted of those murders.

Cooke was the last person to be hanged in the state of Western Australia.

Cooke is buried in Fremantle Cemetery, above the remains of child killer Martha Rendell, who was hanged in Fremantle Prison in 1909.

[edit] People wrongly convicted of Cooke's crimes
Darryl Beamish, Estelle Blackburn and John Button at the Supreme Court following Beamish's exoneration on 1 April 2005 (44 years after his conviction). Button was exonerated on 25 February 2002, 39 years after his conviction.Cooke's confessions appeared to exculpate two men who had already been tried separately, convicted and imprisoned for the killing of Jillian Macpherson Brewer (1959) and Rosemary Anderson (1963) respectively:

Darryl Beamish, a deaf mute was convicted in 1961 of murdering Brewer;
John Button was convicted of manslaughter, following the death of Anderson, his girlfriend.
Despite Cooke's 1963 confession, Beamish served 15 years, while Button was sentenced to ten years and served five.

The appeal court dismissed Button's initial appeal, even though Cooke had provided details that only the culprit could have known; in particular, the judges did not believe Cooke’s claim that Anderson’s body was thrown “over the roof” of an EJ Holden without damaging its sun visor, as Cooke had claimed. Over subsequent decades, Button and his supporters – including journalist Estelle Blackburn – continued to press for a re-trial, a campaign that included a well-publicised 1998 simulated re-enactment of Anderson’s death, conducted by crash test experts, with both a Holden matching one believed to have been used by Cooke on the night in question, and a 1963 Simca Aronde like the car owned by Button, which were both driven at a crash test dummy. The dummy was thrown over the roof of the Holden, as Cooke had claimed and the damage sustained matched the records of a panelbeating business that had, in 1963, repaired the vehicle driven by Cooke. The experts found that the sun visor flexed when hit by a body and returned to its original shape, without even cracking the paint.

Beamish's initial appeal was also dismissed because the court did not believe Cooke’s evidence. The prosecution claimed that his confessions were an attempt to prolong his own trial and the Chief Justice of Western Australia, Sir Albert Wolff (presiding) called Cooke a “villainous unscrupulous liar”.[2]

In 2002, the Court of Criminal Appeal quashed Button's conviction.[8] Button's success opened the way for an appeal by Darryl Beamish, who was acquitted in 2005. In both cases, the appeal judges found that the murders had probably been committed by Cooke.[9]

On 2 June 2011, Beamish was granted a A$425,000 ex gratia payment by the Western Australian government.[9]

[edit] MediaA 2000 memoir by Robert Drewe, The Shark Net – later made into a three-part TV series – provides one author's impressions the effect the murders had on the Perth of that era. According to the book, more people bought dogs for security and locked back doors and garages that had never been secured before.

Eric Edgar Cooke, as "The Nedlands Monster", features in Tim Winton's 1991 novel Cloudstreet and the subsequent 2011 television adaptation.

Cooke is referenced in Craig Silvey's 2009 novel Jasper Jones.

Walkley Award-winning journalist Estelle Blackburn spent six years writing the biographical story Broken Lives, about Cooke's life and criminal career, focusing particularly on the devastation left on his victims and their families.

In March 2009, the second season of Crime Investigation Australia featured an episode about Eric Edgar Cooke.
 

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the only petrol after 11pm when rosters closed was at perth airport when we only had one
Friday night was Claremont Speedway night
Ravenswood was the home of drag racing
Kwinana freeway finished at Canning Hwy and started at Newcastle St
hot donuts in Boans Murray st
Daily News afternoon paper sellers in Perth CBD
Chucking laps in perth on Friday nights and congregating in the No 3 carpark
 
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Claremont Speedway was such awesome fun.

Boans donuts yummo.

In some ways seems like so long ago, in others just like yesterday.
 
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And tell us what you remember that has now since gone Claire.
 
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Sparky, I vaguely recall there were two other petrol stations that were open 24 hours. One was near NOrthbridge - it was open 'cos taxi drivers would frequent it along with the public.

The other was on the corner of Beaufort and Bulwer.

Next to it, the building still stands, was a cinema called the Premier on Bulwer Street and opposite, building stands too - now derelict, was an ice skating rink.

Anyone remember an emporium called "Moore's" which has since gone the way of Boans.
 
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Before all the high falutin' mobile breathalyzers, the cops would ask you to blow into a chemically treated bag. If the bag turned green, you'd be done for drink driving - the limit then was 0.08. Many people now say that was generous as research has since shown that even at .07, you're already quite drunk and slow in reaction.
 
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When it was built, the Narrows Bridge was the largest concrete construction project in the Southern Hemisphere.
 
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Some migrants I knew who migrated to Perth in the 70s lived in the hills in Roleystone. In Summer, it was so hot, the big treat was to drive to La Plaza Bentley Shopping Centre because it was airconditioned.

Orrong Road was ssssssssssssssooooooooooooo quiet on Sundays, you could take your cot out and sleep in the middle of the road without being woken up!
 
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In March 2009, the second season of Crime Investigation Australia featured an episode about Eric Edgar Cooke.[/QUOTE]

Dont forget out very own Baby Farm down near the WACA, Contrarian. Very dark piece of history that.

Al
 
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[QUOTE
In March 2009, the second season of Crime Investigation Australia featured an episode about Eric Edgar Cooke.

Dont forget out very own Baby Farm down near the WACA, Contrarian. Very dark piece of history that.

Al[/QUOTE]


Refresh my memory Al, I must confess ignorance here.
 
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Dont forget out very own Baby Farm down near the WACA, Contrarian. Very dark piece of history that.

Al


Refresh my memory Al, I must confess ignorance here.

I had never heard about this either until tonight when I did some research...How awful is truly an understatement.

The terms 'baby farming' and 'state baby farming' arose in the 1800s to describe placing infants and 'state children' with foster carers for a fee. By the late 1860s, the press was reporting notorious cases from across the world. Countless infants died in the 'care' of baby farmers who sought to make a profit out of mothers who had no alternative child care. Mary Burton was convicted of manslaughter for baby farming in Fremantle in January 1888. Alice Mitchell was the most infamous baby farmer in Western Australia, with the Coroner remarking that her practices were 'loathsome, disgusting and immoral.' Mitchell was jailed for manslaughter in 1907, government inspectors were sacked, and the case stimulated wide public interest in child welfare reform in WA.


http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com.au/2011/09/alice-mitchell-australian-child-care.html

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And it seems this was not at all uncommon :tearyeyed


Abbott, Evelyn (USA), 1891 – scores of babies died
Ashmead, Elizabeth (USA), arrested 1904, 1909, 1911 – 100s of babies died
Atherton, Dr. Bessie (USA), (with Cramer), 1926 – 3 dead babies discovered
Bamberger, Henrietta (USA), 1899 – midwife; 300 est; conv of 1 abort-murd of mother
Barnes, Catherine (England), 1879 – 3 babies died
Barthian, Mme. (France), 1893 – 25 babies died
Brooks, Dr. Edward L. & Edward L. Jr., (USA), 1935 –
Campbell, Nellie (USA), arrested 1902 – 8 babies died
Chard-Williams, Ada (England), 1899 – 1 baby died
“Christiana Baby Farmers” (Norway), 1902 – “a small army of tiny corpses were dug up”
Claus, Charles & Catherine (USA), 1890 – 5 babies died
Compton, Mary (England), 1673 – willfully starved 4 children
Connelly, Matilda (USA), 1912 – 4 babies died
Cooper, Martha & Daniel (New Zealand), 1923 – 3 dead babies discovered
Cramer, Marie (USA), (with Atherton), 1926 – 3 dead babies discovered
Day, Gertrude (USA), 1914 – unsolved mystery
Dean, Minnie (New Zealand), 1895 – 3 babies & 1 toddler died
De Jesus, Luisa (Portugal), 1772 – poisoned to death 28 babies
Delpech, Madame (France), 1869 – murdered 10 babies
Douglas, Amy (England), 1899 – 3 babies died from starvation
Dyer, Amelia (England), 1896 – 100s of babies died
Eckhardt, Wilhelmena (USA), 1906 – 12 babies died
Geisen-Volk, Helen (USA), 1925 – 53 babies died
Gobay, Annie & Emma Kitchen (USA),1903 – at least 3 babies died
“Grey Nuns of Montreal” (Canada), 1876 – 631 babies died
Gunness, Belle (USA), 1908 – 21 babies “disappeared”
Guzovska, Madame (Poland), 1903 – “over 500” babies died
Hanson, Annie (USA), 1892 – at least 5 babies died
Holmen, Mrs. (Sweden), 1906 – over 1,000 babies died
Ishikawa, Miyuki (Japan), 1948 – 103 babies died
Jager, Mari Azalai (Hungary), 1897 – a very large number of babies died
“Julienne” (France), 1869 – midwife, many victims
King, Jessie (Scotland), 1889 – 3 babies died
Knorr, Frances (Australia), 1894 – from 3 to an estimated 13 babies died
Konopkova, Marianne (Poland), 1906 – 30 babies died
Kusnezowa, Madame (Russia) 1913 – 1,012 babies died
Lacroix, Diana (Canada), 1927 – 7 babies died
“Limburg Baby Farmers” (Germany), 1892 – multiple babies died
Lowry, Mary (USA), 1904 – 2 babies died, 3 babies near death
Lynn, Rachel (USA), 1911 – unknown number of babies died
Mabre, Louise (France) 1763 – 62 babies died
Makin, Jane (Australia), 1892 – 13 babies died
McClosky, Margaret (USA), 1876 – 6 babies in starving condition
McDonald, Cynthia (USA), 1887 – 2 babies died, 2 babies in starving condition
Miller, Mrs. A. H. (USA), 1903 – 2 babies died; additional bodies searched
Mitchell, Alice (Australia), 1907 – 37 babies died
Mittlestedt, Pauline (USA), 1886 – “professional infant murderess”
Myer, Frau (Germany), 1892 – 58 babies died
Newman, Isabella (Australia), 1913 – 3 babies died
“Nijni-Novrogod Nurse” (Russia), 1894 – 17 babies died
Nivison, Miss S. S. (USA), 1884 – 22 babies died
“Odessa Baby Farmer” (Ukraine), 1887 – 10 babies died
“Osaka Baby Farmers” (Japan), 1902 – 300 babies died
Ostrovoskafa, Rachel (Ukraine), 1885 – more than 3 babies died; infanticide cult
Overbye, Dagmar (Denmark), 1921 – 9-25 babies died
Reignolds, Mary (USA), 1875 – 5 babies died
Rogers, Frances (England), 1871 – 4 children died, sentenced to 20 years
Sach, Amelia & Annie Walters (Wales), 1902 – probably 100s of babies died
Seiffert, Jennie (USA), 1889 – 2 babies dead, 4 dying
Skoblinska, Madame (Poland), 1890 – 17 babies
Spinks, Ann (England), 1898 – at least 2 babies died
Tanaka, Mrs. & Mrs Juniki (Japan), 1924 – 8 babies murdered by fake foster parents
Tann, Georgia (USA), 1950 – 1,000s of babies died
Topper, Pearl (USA), (with Simmons), 1930 –
Turner, Maud (Canada), 1909 –suspected of numerous murders
Tydrych, Leontina (Poland), 1927 – 60 babies died
“Villa Vico Baby Farmer” (Portugal), 1854 – 9 babies died
“Vilna Baby Farmers” (Russia), 1892 – 65 babies died
“Vivienne Midwife” (France) 1906 – 120 babied died
Waters, Margaret (England), 1870 – 5 babies died
West, Mrs. Fred (USA), 1906 –
Willis, Rhoda (Wales), 1907 – 2 babies died
Winsor, Charlotte (England), 1865 – unknown number
Worcester, Rozilla (USA), 1877 – 6 babies died (in 30 day period)
Young, Lila & William (Canada), 1936 – an estimated 400-600 babies died
 
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I know a family who live in West Leederville. Their house had a baby who died of neglect in the early 1900s. Even before they found about it, they said they often felt an eerie but benign spirit in the house.
 
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I had never heard about this either until tonight when I did some research...How awful is truly an understatement.

Thats the one, Tania. We have a lot of very dark spots in our history that people dont want to acknowledge happened. Blackbirding is another one. For some reason, Australia likes to promote a very sanitised version of our own history and its not like that at all.

AL
 
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Blackbirding? Now I will have to look that up, I've never heard of that either. I've read a lot of true crime books, most based on Australian Crimes, baby farming was never mentioned,,,, now for Blackbirding,,,hmmm back soon lol
 
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In Australia

From the 1860s the demand for labour in Queensland, Australia, became the focus of blackbirding. Queensland was a self-governing British colony in northeastern Australia until 1901 when it became a state of the Commonwealth of Australia. Over a period of 40 years, from the mid-19th century to the early 20th century, native non-European labourers for the sugar cane fields of Queensland, were "recruited" from Vanuatu, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and the Loyalty Islands of New Caledonia as well as Niue. The Queensland government attempted to regulate the trade by requiring every ship engaged in recruiting labourers from the Pacific islands to carry a person approved by the government to ensure that labourers were willingly recruited and not kidnapped. However these government observers were not effective as they were often corrupted by bonuses paid for labourers 'recruited' or blinded by alcohol and did nothing to prevent sea-captains from tricking islanders on-board or otherwise engaging in kidnapping with violence.
The "recruitment" process almost always included an element of coercive recruitment (not unlike the press-gangs once employed by the Royal Navy in England) and indentured servitude. Some 55,000 to 62,500 South Sea Islanders were taken to Australia.
These people were referred to as Kanakas (the French equivalent Canaques still applies to the ethnic Melanesians in New Caledonia) and came from the Western Pacific islands: from Melanesia, mainly the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu, with a small number from the Polynesian and Micronesian islands such as Tonga (mainly 'Ata), Samoa, Kiribati, Tuvalu and Loyalty Islands. Many of the workers were effectively slaves, but since the Slavery Abolition Act made slavery illegal, they were officially called "indentured labourers" or the like. Some Australian Aboriginal people, especially from Cape York Peninsula, were also kidnapped and transported south to work on the farms.
The methods of blackbirding were varied. Some labourers were willing to be taken to Australia to work, while others were tricked or even forced. In some cases blackbirding ships (which made huge profits) would entice entire villages by luring them on board for trade or a religious service, and then setting sail. Many died during the voyage due to unsanitary conditions,[citation needed] and also in the fields due to the hard manual labour.[14]
The question of how many Islanders were actually kidnapped or "blackbirded" is unknown and remains controversial. Official documents and accounts from the period often conflict with the oral tradition passed down to the descendants of workers. Stories of blatantly violent kidnapping tended to relate to the first 10–15 years of the trade. The majority of the 10,000 remaining in Australia in 1901 were repatriated between 1906-08 under the provisions of the Pacific Island Labourers Act 1901.[15] A 1992 census of South Sea Islanders found there were around 10,000 descendants of the blackbirded labourers living in Queensland, although less than 3,500 were reported in the 2001 Australian census.


Hmmm, I now have my answer to what Blackbirding is...Learn something new everyday :)
 
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Al Swearengen

Yep thats it. Although the numbers of Aboriginals shipped out as blackbirds was a bit higher then "some". In Derby, theres a huge boab tree that dates back beyond this time where "convoys" of Aboriginals stopped at before being shipped off. They called it the prison tree.
And dont let Aboriginals tell you it was all the big bad white man! They were in on it just as much as everyone else! In NSW & Vic during the culls of the tribes, Aboriginals from other tribes willingly took part in the destruction of other Aboriginal tribes alongside white men. The justification being that it was perfectly ok because the tribes were a completly separate group of people.
Again, all swept under the rug in the name of sanitising our history! Personally, I find our history, warts & all!, MUCH more interesting then the sanitised version.

Al
 
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