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Natural sex - really that common?

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andycoles

I'm surprised by the number of ads that say "no natural sex". That should be obvious, right? Are there really so many clients asking for unsafe sex that it needs to be stated that this is not on offer?
 
Yes !! There is quiet an enormous amount of clients thinking they can pay an extra for natural !!
aND THEY TAKE NO for an answer ! They think it is so normal ! And they think bigger amount of extras will solve that out. Unfortunately for them it is not happening here. And to be honest, whomever asks me that - I take an extra cation later on with body exchange fluids with whomever asks me that.
 
I guess I'd be curious to know what goes on in their head. Do you ever ask if they have thought about the risks? I wonder what their answer is, how they justify it to themselves that this practice is ok. Maybe they think it's ok when you "look clean" but doesn't everyone know that you can look healthy with an STD in you.
 
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I have been actually offered natural for an extra fee (several years ago). As soon as she said that I was out of there. Incredibly unsafe and stupid.
 
I remember being health checked my first time I thought Why I have only been with one woman in the past 28 yrs Then thought How the hell do the girls know this Must be told similar all the time Then I thought If this is the standard, then they care about their own bodies to and realised it is all part of the modern day life and Natural sex means the girl does not care about her health And if she is careless about hers How can she give a toss about mine

But it is education Have we slipped at the school sex ed level Or is it just a new breed of bullet proof people coming through
 
In the last two years it has become far to common. I estimate 10%-20% of the industry are offering natural sex at a price.
 
One theory I have is, my new discovery of "dogging" or public sex. I had no idea it was so popular until I found a website listing regular meeting places all over Australia. There's even one in the car park directly opposite my office at work and if you have to work late sometimes you see the cars parked there with their interior lights on. So my question here is, if a guy regularly goes along to a car park etc and joins in with sex that he sees going on, do they all use condoms? Because if they don't, I suspect that he'll go into a brothel and just not want to use one there either.
 
A lot of it has to do with an increasing number of WL advertising natural sex as part of their service. This had lead to increase demand from men and to protect oneself state in own ad that you don't offer it. You will always get the ones who ask or try getting natural sex. I get at least 2 msg a day asking. I have learnt not to reply just hit the delete button
 
I see natural full service advertised regularly and tbh regardless how good the ad looks or how good the reviews on the WL are it puts me off seeing that person immediately.

Can't understand why WLs would offer it and can't understand why punters would accept it.

Natural sex is fantastic .. No doubt .. But not something I'd do with a WL , one night stand or casual partner. From a punters perspective one encounter simply isn't worth jeopardising many future ones lol.
 
andycoles said:
I guess I'd be curious to know what goes on in their head. Do you ever ask if they have thought about the risks? I wonder what their answer is, how they justify it to themselves that this practice is ok. Maybe they think it's ok when you "look clean" but doesn't everyone know that you can look healthy with an STD in you.
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I agree with you. They probably this if you look healthy then you are 'clean'. It is hard for me to comprehend or understand. Is it lack of their knowledge or they don't care about their health? As simply as that if someone asks me it means they ask everyone. And occasionally they may find someone that does that.
What's more, occasionally I come across STD's during health inspections. And most of the infected men say it's ok it's not an STD, they have been having it for years.
The truth is STD's will be there forever if not treated !!
 
Everytime when people call me for natural sex, I get angry and tell him to fuck his wife. I know I'm very rude.......
 
Its a stupid thing to do, but men are stupid. And nothing beats the real thing, no matter how thin the condom its never the same or even close.

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing.I mean ive slept with women ive met at a pub or a club condomless one nightsstands were pretty common.
 
I don't know, I'm kinda torn on this subject. At a high level, society wide point of view, sure, we needed (and need) to keep the real nasties somewhat under control, whilst there were and are plenty of nasties out there, the AIDS thing brought us all a big wake up call back in the eighties.

At a personal level, I cant help but agree with Zacory above, condoms don't provide an experience thats even close to the natural thing. I mean, that is what it is and we have to deal with it, but I often reflect how when I was young, dumb and full of something back in the eighties and nineties before I discovered the joys of the punting lifestyle I rarely used condoms and on many occasions even if I did then the girl would rip it off at some point during activities - it was a common occurrence and in the heat of the moment I don't believe I ever objected.

Talking with mates of mine both around my age and quite a bit younger, those who prefer the club/bar scene as opposed to the punting scene, if they can be believed, condoms are used but its hardly common with the vast majority of those encounters being bareback - this despite many of them occasionally visiting WL's and apparently -always- using condoms in _those_ encounters (doubtless due to the WL's insistence I'm guessing).

If urban legend can be believed then the rates of STI's among WL's as a group is significantly lower than among the general population, doubtless due to the majority using condoms as well as not remaining undiagnosed for long periods of time I suppose - so there's got to be an ultimate truth and positive ramification to condom use ... yet, I just get the feeling that for the most part we boys and girls are simply out there humping away, as nature intended and again, for the most part, we just accept the risk and consequences.

From a purely business perspective, yep, understand and fully accept a WL's point of view - a busy businesswoman can't afford to even go there, and as others have rightly said - why would you?

From a punters point of view, the argument isn't likely to be the same, thus the enquiries I suppose. In fact, it just occurred to me as I write this, that if those supposed numbers per population of STI's are to be believed then statistically one might be -less- likely to gain a problem barebacking a WL as opposed to a random pub pickup. Thats probably drawing a long bow actually, as numbers of WL's who would offer such services are relatively low and STI's may well be clustered around them as a result of this choice ... who knows the truth of it?

I suppose, even given my pontification and chin scratching, its a personal risk assessment from both parties, with little to go on in making that assessment, so, a true gamble. I'm not surprised that its a service often asked for, and I think its no harm for advertising ladies to make it clear, right from the get-go that such services won't be entertained.

What I do worry about though is when I spot advertising on the normal sites that are clearly linked (ie; same house or boss) that offer natural services by several or -all- of their girls. This smells strongly of coercion to me, as it doesn't seem likely that very large numbers of ladies offer this service and to find them collected together in this way seems even less likely. I'd really hate to think that some of the girls are being 'forced' to offer such services.
 
Following on to John the Johns comment above. I have been told by a few that visit AMP where girls speak very little English that their boss is advertising natural services and they have no knowledge until client expects it
 
I have a friend who used to be a w/l in an AMP in Melbourne. She said she was the only one there using condoms and lost her job after a short time due to customer complaints for not having natural. I just imagine all these guys going home to their wives or girl friends after taking these risks.
 
Yeah i would say if you can help it don't go natural, at least not with the random asian places that change girls every 2 weeks, maybe only do it with a regular but even then, they ALWAYS say " your the only one i do natural with "
 
magrov said:
I have been actually offered natural for an extra fee (several years ago). As soon as she said that I was out of there. Incredibly unsafe and stupid.
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Ditto I sometimes ask about Bj without a condom if they say yes that's the end of proceedings
 
I ask most WL if they do natural sex if I'm thinking of visiting and especially if after 69
Its amazing the amount out there that say yes or no but my friend will
One girl today offered natural sex BJ and Anal no condom necessary for anything only extra $50 for CIM
She just laughed when i said if she said no i would have visited
$300 for 2 hrs sounded pretty good too
Please don't bother asking for her details either
 
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