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Is it wrong to ask?

roger166

roger166

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Hoping to start a dialogue/discussion,admin feel
free to take it down if this topic is inappropriate.

The question is,

Is it wrong to ask working ladies about their choices of clients in this case gentlemen of ethnicity or Nationality?

Thanks.
 
Hi Roger, here's my view (and I know where this is coming from)

As punters we have our liking: Thai, Chinese, Aussie's etc. and we pick and choose the WL based on the ethnicity or nationality...lots of punters do this...I try and avoid WLs of certain ethnicity/nationality because I've always had bad or mediocre experience with them....

Humans have a tendency to Generalise (especially when it comes to ethnicity and nationality)...so they always apply the rule: better safe than sorry...

I don't think it's WRONG to ask the ladies their preferred choice and the reason behind it and it is absolutely her choice whether she wants to answer it or not....However punters should not take it personally and making at a racial thing....
 
I don’t think there’s a problem with asking however, you can’t be offended if the answer isn’t what you want to hear.... As it’s your right to choose a lady, it’s a lady’s right to choose who she sees.
 
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Getjiggy said:
Hi Roger, here's my view (and I know where this is coming from)

As punters we have our liking: Thai, Chinese, Aussie's etc. and we pick and choose the WL based on the ethnicity or nationality...lots of punters do this...I try and avoid WLs of certain ethnicity/nationality because I've always had bad or mediocre experience with them....

Humans have a tendency to Generalise (especially when it comes to ethnicity and nationality)...so they always apply the rule: better safe than sorry...

I don't think it's WRONG to ask the ladies their preferred choice and the reason behind it and it is absolutely her choice whether she wants to answer it or not....However punters should not take it personally and making at a racial thing....
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I hear what you are saying, but where do we stand as to clarify something especially when a certain WL has advertised her services on this forum but decides to miss out on the part where she says she does not see particular ethnicity or Nationality, so I decided to clarify it with her on the post itself , I hoping for some form of clarity as us ethnics we always seem to be shunned upon thanks some bad apples.

Now apparently my post caused some what of negative vibe and it was the reason why it was taken down (again admin feel free to delete if you find it inappropriate)and I was pretty much to be blamed for all of these. To be honest I feel a person should judged by their character not but tone of their skin and having to be a person of colour this does matters to us as not all of us raised the same way.
 
Shannon Starr* said:
I don’t think there’s a problem with asking however, you can’t be offended if the answer isn’t what you want to hear.... As it’s your right to choose a lady, it’s a lady’s right to choose who she sees.
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Definitely about clarity and understanding.
 
I am aware of ethnicity bias amongst workers at some Perth AMPs ... I don't think of it as racism for the sake of racism, but rather as a product of bulk client experiences which are regularly discussed amongst the workers. Whether punters might think it fair or not, it seems that many blokes of certain ethnic backgrounds have developed amongst workers a feeling that those blokes cannot be trusted ... in simple terms, this trust for the most part relates to aspects of agreed fees for service, the actual payment, and breaching terms of what activities (i.e. the client's in-session behaviour) are included for said fees and payment.

To me, it's not dissimilar to punters complaining about services provided (or not provided) by workers, except our complaints are more usually specifically directed to particular workers or the 'organisation' for whom they work.

However, I also understand people consider that generalisations are unfair ... no matter how common a particular gripe may turn out to be.
 
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Its a good talking/discussion point. I have seen an advert somewhere on the net, a while back and that's why I cant remember where I saw it, but an African lady emphasised that she did not want African men for clients!! So, that cant be racist then, but probably based on bad experiences and has generalised her feelings towards all African men.
 
roger166 said:
I hear what you are saying, but where do we stand as to clarify something especially when a certain WL has advertised her services on this forum but decides to miss out on the part where she says she does not see particular ethnicity or Nationality, so I decided to clarify it with her on the post itself , I hoping for some form of clarity as us ethnics we always seem to be shunned upon thanks some bad apples.

Now apparently my post caused some what of negative vibe and it was the reason why it was taken down (again admin feel free to delete if you find it inappropriate)and I was pretty much to be blamed for all of these. To be honest I feel a person should judged by their character not but tone of their skin and having to be a person of colour this does matters to us as not all of us raised the same way.
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There is always going to be good & bad in every race & sadly to tar everyone with the same brush is simply human nature.
 
roger166 said:
Now apparently my post caused some what of negative vibe and it was the reason why it was taken down (again admin feel free to delete if you find it inappropriate)and I was pretty much to be blamed for all of these. To be honest I feel a person should judged by their character not but tone of their skin and having to be a person of colour this does matters to us as not all of us raised the same way.
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The previous thread was deleted due to the extremely negative route it was starting to take. I do not wish to bring it up again on here or have the same thing happen with this post.

At the end of the day, I believe the best way to address questions with a working lady is perhaps to message her privately so as to avoid similar things happening again.
 
I limit my services to certain types of clients. The constant negotiating on rates, the constant barrage of messages, pushing for services not offered, pushing for extras to be included free, pushing for natural services - this all before a booking had even been accepted! Once in the room, the bad personal hygiene, sharp fingernails, bad breath, refusal to wash hygienically, boundary-pushing, unwilling to accept no as an answer. NOT bringing the correct money with them (brings less cash than stated in the booking process). Demanding appointments immediately or outside specified availability, last-minute cancellations, or not showing at all - These are all the reasons I refused to see certain clients. Is it right to tar everyone with the same brush, no, but it happened so often from clients of the same background and it was exhausting and wasted so much of my time I just decided it wasn't worth the effort.
 
jerry hattrick said:
Its a good talking/discussion point. I have seen an advert somewhere on the net, a while back and that's why I cant remember where I saw it, but an African lady emphasised that she did not want African men for clients!! So, that cant be racist then, but probably based on bad experiences and has generalised her feelings towards all African men.
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Na, I don't agree. It is more likely that she is scared to meet someone she knows, someone within her African circle of friends.
 
I really don't think this is an area of life where people should be seeking righteous elevation by playing the race card. If I read the tone of the thread right, it relates to workers preference for clients based on race. Whether the precious can accept it or not, there really are behavioural consistencies amongst persons of the same demographic. Ashton Reign has put it perfectly. I have had therapists who absolutely will not see men of certain racial backgrounds based on their previous experience and I am 100% cool with that. Metaphorically speaking, you don't have to be bitten by every snake on earth to learn that snakes are dangerous...for most intelligent species one or two bites is enough...then you stay away from them.

But on the subject, I really think society needs to reset its view on 'racism', and stop using it as a tool to bully and destroy anyone they don't like as that is tearing society apart. This ideology totally diminishes real, actual, harmful racism or any other ism that is really hurting people.

I hope i haven't gone off topic, delete if so desired.
 
Unless you have worked the floor I don't think you will understand. Some ladies hang in certain ethnic groups in their private lives and those circles can be small. Also you can't be in someone's head. If a lady has had a bad experience it can taint her future bookings. She is better off not seeing "any" client who makes her feel uncomfortable whether it be race, hair colour, vibe etc. It is a ladies right to politely refuse a booking.

@Ashton Reign are you still working? I have had a couple of Townsville inquiries and can't find any advertising for you.
 
Tania Smiley said:
Unless you have worked the floor I don't think you will understand. Some ladies hang in certain ethnic groups in their private lives and those circles can be small. Also you can't be in someone's head. If a lady has had a bad experience it can taint her future bookings. She is better off not seeing "any" client who makes her feel uncomfortable whether it be race, hair colour, vibe etc. It is a ladies right to refuse a booking.

@Ashton Reign are you still working? I have had a couple of Townsville inquiries and can't find any advertising for you.
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No, I'm not working currently. All sex work is currently illegal in QLD. I do have twitter @AshtonReign
 
Tania Smiley said:
Weird though, Not even any old ads come up.
Probably just a glitch.
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how so? I work in brothels so I don't advertise. I'm in touch with Aaron & Shannon about possibly touring with Langtrees in the future. Also I don't accept referrals for work etc from anyone as I must be a sole operator in QLD and I am not taking any chances. So no there is no glitch. My private working name and my brothel name are different as many ladies do
 
Every lady has the absolute right to see or not see any client.
If a lady refuses to see a client based on his race/ethnicity, the client should accept the refusal graciously and move on.
I mix with people I feel more comfortable with. Does this make me a racist person? I don't think so.
 
Fat boy said:
Every lady has the absolute right to see or not see any client.
If a lady refuses to see a client based on his race/ethnicity, the client should accept the refusal graciously and move on.
I mix with people I feel more comfortable with. Does this make me a racist person? I don't think so.
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I completely agree, I also believe that in refusing a client on this basis there is no need for the lady to be rude or disrespectful in refusing the job/booking
 
Ashton Reign said:
I also believe that in refusing a client on this basis there is no need for the lady to be rude or disrespectful in refusing the job/booking
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Ashton Reign said:
how so? I work in brothels so I don't advertise. I'm in touch with Aaron & Shannon about possibly touring with Langtrees in the future. Also I don't accept referrals for work etc from anyone as I must be a sole operator in QLD and I am not taking any chances. So no there is no glitch. My private working name and my brothel name are different as many ladies do
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I said all good. I was looking for pics to send to a couple of potential clients (who are mates of mine living in Townsville for the next year or 2).

Again all good. I know who you are :) Hopefully things change soon so you can get back to work :)
 
roger166 said:
Hoping to start a dialogue/discussion,admin feel
free to take it down if this topic is inappropriate.

The question is,

Is it wrong to ask working ladies about their choices of clients in this case gentlemen of ethnicity or Nationality?

Thanks.
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I run a a trade orientated business and there are certain communities that are interested in price, but not quality and when I get their tedious bullshit on the phone and on site visits I always decline the job. Even during these times which usually blows them away or they try and haggle which gets the same response. We’re really busy, and I don’t need their bullshit.

Generally I discriminate on country ( in the back of my mind, not always right but certain stupid remarks will usually seal the deal) but not race I might add, there are certain sectors of the community that want it all for fark all and from our side they can continue their futile pursuit.

we charge a premium and we’re busy Ive done this for years and when pressed on the phone for a price my response is“ don’t worry about it you can’t afford me, cos if you’re about price vs outcome ,rest assured we’re too expensive for you” Etc etc. Punch on peeps, this is still working me as late as today, and it’ll work tomorrow too!👊
 
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baal6007 said:
The thing I don't get is, if a lady is clearly saying she does not want to see someone from a particular ethnic group, and you belong to that ethnic group, why would you even want to see her? It's a guarantee you won't be given a good service. Why bother at all? Move on.
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Yep, seems that some have age restrictions as well. I’m ok with that it’s honest. I’m no spring chicken but a 70 year old wouldn’t do it for me either.
Nothing against the elderly just don’t wanna have sex with them at this point in my life but. A few of them are out there though lying about their age.
beats the shit out of me.
 
baal6007 said:
The thing I don't get is, if a lady is clearly saying she does not want to see someone from a particular ethnic group, and you belong to that ethnic group, why would you even want to see her? It's a guarantee you won't be given a good service. Why bother at all? Move on.
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100%
 
I've written in an earlier post about a girl who was a working lady 20 years ago, and we became friends. I remember her saying she wouldn't take booking for a certain race because of their attitude towards her. She told me the first thing they would say when making a booking was telling her how large their cocks were and asking her if she could handle it, then they would begin to haggle over the price. I'll leave it up to you to guess the race, but here's the funny part, the girl herself was one of them :)
 
Osman said:
I've written in an earlier post about a girl who was a working lady 20 years ago, and we became friends. I remember her saying she wouldn't take booking for a certain race because of their attitude towards her. She told me the first thing they would say when making a booking was telling her how large their cocks were and asking her if she could handle it, then they would begin to haggle over the price. I'll leave it up to you to guess the race, but here's the funny part, the girl herself was one of them :)
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I'm not that surprised by that.
 
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