GROUP THERAPY: Is it cheating if your husband gets a happy ending massage? Read more at http://www.m
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Ahoy;- Yes............... Give the Poor Bugger a Second Chance
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HP. What do you think? Should she give the poor bugger a second chance?
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People do things because they NEED to do things. If seeing a massage girl for a happy ending keeps me emotionally sane in a sexless but otherwise acceptable marriage and avoiding the pain and difficulty involved in demolishing a workable relationship does not strain my sense of morality, then I have no need of other peoples judgement.
If you have an issue with that, then walk a mile in my shoes. Then, when you pass judgement you will at least be a mile away. Oh and you will also have my shoes.
Honestly, I don't care what others think. We all have our choices to make and they are nobody else's business.
So there... Ner
If you have an issue with that, then walk a mile in my shoes. Then, when you pass judgement you will at least be a mile away. Oh and you will also have my shoes.
Honestly, I don't care what others think. We all have our choices to make and they are nobody else's business.
So there... Ner
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Damn I could not have put it anymore plain and succinct than that!!People do things because they NEED to do things. If seeing a massage girl for a happy ending keeps me emotionally sane in a sexless but otherwise acceptable marriage and avoiding the pain and difficulty involved in demolishing a workable relationship does not strain my sense of morality, then I have no need of other peoples judgement.
If you have an issue with that, then walk a mile in my shoes. Then, when you pass judgement you will at least be a mile away. Oh and you will also have my shoes.
Honestly, I don't care what others think. We all have our choices to make and they are nobody else's business.
So there... Ner
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I dont feel a therapeutic massage with relief is classed as cheating at all.
There is no emotional / romantic link involved. its a service of human touch to heal, pleasure and help relieve individuals. We all know males can get ' backed - up' with semen aka 'Blue-balls'. It can get very painful for men without regular release. As mentioned before, this is how the male human body is designed. (to frequently spread their seed , to populate) My partner says i do a great job for male health /healing and it also helps to drop the rate of rape in the community (which can be driven by the painful Blue-balls)
There is no emotional / romantic link involved. its a service of human touch to heal, pleasure and help relieve individuals. We all know males can get ' backed - up' with semen aka 'Blue-balls'. It can get very painful for men without regular release. As mentioned before, this is how the male human body is designed. (to frequently spread their seed , to populate) My partner says i do a great job for male health /healing and it also helps to drop the rate of rape in the community (which can be driven by the painful Blue-balls)
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Whole heartedly agree
I would say quite a lot of the gentleman that recieve these types of massages are mainly coming in for a little bit of female companionship, or to pamper them a little.
Why do people always call out cheater, before calling names I suggest the lovely women should calmly and politely ask why he chose a massage service over a mistress, and 9 times out of ten the answer would be (roughly) for the companionship that isn't being recieved at home but the gentleman still loves and cherishes his partner and has probably spoken to her about more pampering (which fell on deaf ears or got swept under the rug)
Come on ladies lets be honest a lot of us will lose our libido but men never do so either we keep up with our male partners or we buy them a cheeky voucher once in a while from an establishment we believe is trustworthy and only provides services your happy with him enjoying (win win for some I think) but as I said before just my opinion
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People do things because they NEED to do things. If seeing a massage girl for a happy ending keeps me emotionally sane in a sexless but otherwise acceptable marriage and avoiding the pain and difficulty involved in demolishing a workable relationship does not strain my sense of morality, then I have no need of other peoples judgement.
If you have an issue with that, then walk a mile in my shoes. Then, when you pass judgement you will at least be a mile away. Oh and you will also have my shoes.
Honestly, I don't care what others think. We all have our choices to make and they are nobody else's business.
So there... Ner
Love the ending quote but it's .....
So there...... ner ner ner ner ner
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'Companionship'.....'pampering'........ requests 'falling on deaf ears' and 'massage service over mistress'....perfectly summed up, in my situation. If only my partner had your understanding of a man's needs.Whole heartedly agree
I would say quite a lot of the gentleman that recieve these types of massages are mainly coming in for a little bit of female companionship, or to pamper them a little.
Why do people always call out cheater, before calling names I suggest the lovely women should calmly and politely ask why he chose a massage service over a mistress, and 9 times out of ten the answer would be (roughly) for the companionship that isn't being recieved at home but the gentleman still loves and cherishes his partner and has probably spoken to her about more pampering (which fell on deaf ears or got swept under the rug)
Come on ladies lets be honest a lot of us will lose our libido but men never do so either we keep up with our male partners or we buy them a cheeky voucher once in a while from an establishment we believe is trustworthy and only provides services your happy with him enjoying (win win for some I think) but as I said before just my opinion
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The funny thing about this whole situation is that if you look through history this sort of situation was very common and the gentlemans partners knew what was happening but never said anything, so for people to make it seem like such a bad thing when it has been happening for centuries astounds me.
It's only shocking to some people depending on how open and informed their minds are about the industry.
But as I said before if looking at a stripper is cheating to some, does that mean that a man should keep his head down and make NO eye contact with any women for the rest of his life. That's not fair when same woman have probably been to a male stripper themselves.
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Indeedily doo miss Erin...miss Palmer went on strike once and I felt so heavy between my thighs. It's like carrying two overloaded canonballs. Not very comfy to walk with.
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People do things because they NEED to do things. If seeing a massage girl for a happy ending keeps me emotionally sane in a sexless but otherwise acceptable marriage and avoiding the pain and difficulty involved in demolishing a workable relationship does not strain my sense of morality, then I have no need of other peoples judgement.
If you have an issue with that, then walk a mile in my shoes. Then, when you pass judgement you will at least be a mile away. Oh and you will also have my shoes.
Honestly, I don't care what others think. We all have our choices to make and they are nobody else's business.
So there... Ner
Well written Lord Spikey...ABSOLUTELY no one should be judging anyone. Every relationship has its nuance's and what works for some doesn't for others. Younare also correct its nobody's business but yours!!! In your case I am assuming it is an open and discussed situation where you both see the means to a justification and that it is pro qua ..But cheating is cheating ..when secrecy and deception is involved and I am not just referring to marriage or sex. The word it self is defined as to defraud..to deceive..hence to receive a reward for ability by dishonest means. It is a broad statement in truth as quoted "rules of infringed may be explicit or they may be a form of unwritten code based on morality ethics or custom therefore making the identification of cheating a subjective process"
On the scale of things in life having a massage with a "happy ending " either for a man or woman is not important to me ...but when a partner deliberately goes out of their way to deceive...I think it shows some serious issues in the relationship for why this happens. There are always 2 sides to the story of the people involved in a relationship. It is not just men who live a lonely ..sexless marriage ..
This is also just my opinion written without prejudice . Bee
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Whole heartedly agree
I would say quite a lot of the gentleman that recieve these types of massages are mainly coming in for a little bit of female companionship, or to pamper them a little.
Why do people always call out cheater, before calling names I suggest the lovely women should calmly and politely ask why he chose a massage service over a mistress, and 9 times out of ten the answer would be (roughly) for the companionship that isn't being recieved at home but the gentleman still loves and cherishes his partner and has probably spoken to her about more pampering (which fell on deaf ears or got swept under the rug)
Come on ladies lets be honest a lot of us will lose our libido but men never do so either we keep up with our male partners or we buy them a cheeky voucher once in a while from an establishment we believe is trustworthy and only provides services your happy with him enjoying (win win for some I think) but as I said before just my opinion
I do like this Maria..but in all fairness many men and women seek this intimacy ..to feel wanted and nurtured and they have do so in secrecy. Hence establishment's adverse "total discretion" In a perfect world if people spoke about these needs then theses services are a very good option if used and undertaken within a relationship and its consensual. Unfortunately we don't live in such an open society and this is seen as wrong...morally Personally I believe they could enhance sexual relationships !! the possibilities are endless!! Congratulations also to WINK as I notice there is massage coaching..and I see this as a very good way for couples to seek exploration in a very safe environment . Bee x.
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Well written Erin.
Unfortunately Rape is not caused by "blue balls" it is a violent brutal abuse on a man or woman fuelled by many causes . For any man to blame his backed up semen for a rape is perhaps displaying a sociopath personality .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_sexual_violence
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Yes, 'secrecy and deception' is part of my life at the moment ......wasn't always like that. It's not something I like or am particularly proud of but I refuse to become a bitter man grizzling to myself in front of the TV about what should be while drinking myself stupid, which would be quite on the cards if I wasn't doing what I do. I have too much energy to burn to simply 'give up' and follow the moral and ethical status quo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what I do is right and I have to live with it. However, a couple of W/Ls, one in particular, have restored my faith in pleasurable sex, intimate interesting conversation and passion (not in any order). And I thank them/her profusely in restoring some degree of sanity in my life. What route will I take should I eventually get found out, I don't know. Life is full of small mysteries....and tragedies....amen.
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Yes Ive been told it's most uncomfortable. Walking, bending over and just simple movements can be very painful. But the wonderful Winktresses are here to help anyone with the dreaded case of BlueBalls.
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Ahoy;- Thanks everyone for your views, this thread has become very interesting.
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Same journalist as last time .
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Ahoy;-............. Give the Poor Bugger a Second Chance
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My Big input on the subject.
Relationships vary.
Open relationships seem more popular all the time.
There are couples that are very sexually active their whole lives.
Men that love their partner but see their virility wane.
Women that love their partner and also lose their sexual desire (which is why Viagra for females is being developed)
If both parties lose the sexual desire evenly then all is good but generally it waxes and wanes unevenly. See it through these phases (by whatever means – male of female stress relief) or drift apart.
Menopausal responses vary in people – male and female, I’ve known women to lose their sexual desire completely and others become nymphomaniacs during these period.
So generally what I’m saying is that sexual relief is a necessary evil for humans and unfortunately timing doesn’t always coincide with that of their partner during a lengthy relationship – but that doesn’t necessarily diminish their love for each other.
Cheating or not. Yes and No, There are too many variations of personal circumstances which may sometimes result in discretionary activities to ensure a relationship’s longevity.
Hope you get my drift. Who are we to judge others. Life is too short. Relax – go get yourselves a massage.
Relationships vary.
Open relationships seem more popular all the time.
There are couples that are very sexually active their whole lives.
Men that love their partner but see their virility wane.
Women that love their partner and also lose their sexual desire (which is why Viagra for females is being developed)
If both parties lose the sexual desire evenly then all is good but generally it waxes and wanes unevenly. See it through these phases (by whatever means – male of female stress relief) or drift apart.
Menopausal responses vary in people – male and female, I’ve known women to lose their sexual desire completely and others become nymphomaniacs during these period.
So generally what I’m saying is that sexual relief is a necessary evil for humans and unfortunately timing doesn’t always coincide with that of their partner during a lengthy relationship – but that doesn’t necessarily diminish their love for each other.
Cheating or not. Yes and No, There are too many variations of personal circumstances which may sometimes result in discretionary activities to ensure a relationship’s longevity.
Hope you get my drift. Who are we to judge others. Life is too short. Relax – go get yourselves a massage.
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My Big input on the subject.
Relationships vary.
Open relationships seem more popular all the time.
There are couples that are very sexually active their whole lives.
Men that love their partner but see their virility wane.
Women that love their partner and also lose their sexual desire (which is why Viagra for females is being developed)
If both parties lose the sexual desire evenly then all is good but generally it waxes and wanes unevenly. See it through these phases (by whatever means – male of female stress relief) or drift apart.
Menopausal responses vary in people – male and female, I’ve known women to lose their sexual desire completely and others become nymphomaniacs during these period.
So generally what I’m saying is that sexual relief is a necessary evil for humans and unfortunately timing doesn’t always coincide with that of their partner during a lengthy relationship – but that doesn’t necessarily diminish their love for each other.
Cheating or not. Yes and No, There are too many variations of personal circumstances which may sometimes result in discretionary activities to ensure a relationship’s longevity.
Hope you get my drift. Who are we to judge others. Life is too short. Relax – go get yourselves a massage.
perhaps open relationships are a better option ...during a "legnthy " relationship...to help cope/survive the stresses life has. Both men and women experience "menopause" and both mid life crisis...i still maintain open and honest communication...again just my thoughts...B
Viktoria Richards
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Very controversial subject! I guess it depends on the lady and her openness.
MrBig
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Perhaps we should also open discussion up and ask if it's cheating if a woman gets a happy ending massage.
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I thought this was about men and women...how is it different??
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I think it aplies to a man and his openness also...
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We may well say openness is the key But I'm sure most of the fella's on here have friends or acquaintances who are married or have long term partners And have loving partners But can't stop chasing skirt
But who Will state if I ever caught my wife with another man I would kill her
It still seems to me And this is just my opinion
A bloke can try for the best of both worlds and he has a get out of jail free card Of. I can't help it Its how I'm programmed
But if his wife used the same logic She is just a slag
But who Will state if I ever caught my wife with another man I would kill her
It still seems to me And this is just my opinion
A bloke can try for the best of both worlds and he has a get out of jail free card Of. I can't help it Its how I'm programmed
But if his wife used the same logic She is just a slag
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Seems to me that you don't really want a wife - you want a slave. That's not the type of relationship that will endure. Both of you are individuals and even though many strive for that perfect relationship the fact is that it does not exist. If you find one close to it then great - not to many hurdles to overcome especially if you are tolerant to the needs of the other especially when you need to fill that gap with other ventures.
If there are too many hurdles for one or the other then it's probably time to move on.
People at different stages of life search for adventure, passion, fantasy, solace etc.
Let them indulge these as they would and if it's meant to be then the relationship would be better for it.
After all, life is a death sentence, we won't get out of it alive.