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You need to watch this...About sex work ignorance.

Miss Delights

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YouTube - ‪A Swedish sexworker on the criminalization of clients‬‏

You need to watch this..I want to marry this woman! She hits the nail on the head about sex work & how naive everyone can be on the topic..The title of it is -'We want to save you! And if you dont appreciate it you will be punished!

I found it after a friend sent me this on facebook in reply to Ashton Kutchers arrogance in trying to stop human trafficking & all the bullshit tweets..

Link is broken so has been removed

Opinions please people?
 
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Most of us these days can claim to have had an education so I think we are aware of what is right and what is wrong, nobody that I am aware of is forced to work in the sex industry.
It`s a persons own decision and nobody should be able to judge them, simply based on their choice of work.
Not here in Australia but elsewhere I know of some that can earn in a night what it would take a month to earn doing their normal job. I don`t think that many of us would turn that down.
All I ask is that we make sure that the young stay educated in the art of safe sex and that there is always a helping hand should they need it.

I work in the food industry because I know that people will be hungry.
Sex workers choose their job because people want sex.

Nobody forces us to pick our career.
 
Thankyou so much for posting that Dylan.

Both the video and article are excellent on the issues of sex work, the ineffectiveness of harsh laws and the approach of lawmakers in those circumstances, and the necessary separation of sex-workers and sex-trafficking. They will prove very useful to me particularly in challenging the proposed WA laws. Ms Jacobbsen is very articulate.

It was also quite an insight into how the laws came about and were developed. I had researched the Swedish model and was quite surprised that something like that came out of Sweden, which is generally a very consultative and forward-thinking country. It seems that they see this as something progressive - as she discusses, the concept of radical feminism. I believe she is spot on. I have always felt that feminism approaches the issue of female sex-workers from entirely the wrong perspective: rather than see the women involved as victims and attempt to stamp it out, it is feminism that should embrace sex work as an empowerment of women. Feminism (with respect to sex) is about the matter of women not having control and self-determination about their sexuality. For some reason they see sex work as representative of this when in fact it is the opposite - there is no group of women more in control of their sexuality and self-determinant with respect to their sexuality than those in the sex industry. This is both a direct and an indirect product of working - directly sex workers choose what they do and don't do and who they will and won't see and under what conditions they will and won't work; indirectly it is the only profession that enables a woman to maximise her earning potential and achieve genuine financial freedom, security and independence and it leads to a better understanding of an individual's sexuality, desires and likes and dislikes. It can also assist in the development of self-esteem and self-confidence particularly with respect to interaction with men. This all permeates into a sex-worker's personal life as well. So feminism should harness the industry and work in tandem with it to assist women within the industry and learn from them.

I was also particularly interested in her comments about stereotyping dehumanising people and how this has led to negative approaches with respect to drug addicts and sex-workers. It is so true: when people are looked at in a group and concepts assigned to that group it is very easy to forget that they are human beings and essentially wipe your hands of them. It is a common tactic employed by politicians whenever they need to deal with what is essentially a human issue in an inhumane way - they convince the public to see those involved as a 'thing' rather than as people. Consider, for example, asylum seekers in Australia.

The Swedish model is often referred to by lawmakers looking to stamp out sex-work, and they approach it from the same perspective as did the Swedish lawmakers: the stereotype that sex work is undesirable and damaging to the community and participants, and they don't make any effort to consult the people involved. In referencing this and other harsh models, lawmakers also tend not to pay attention to their ineffectiveness. Indeed, I believe that this model was referred to in the development of the proposed WA laws. Harsh laws are always going to create problems. In the case of the sex industry they promote the genuinely undesirable side of the industry and will drive a lot of it underground, which actually makes it more detrimental to the community and dangerous for the participants. Those who are criminals and want to exploit the industry in a negative way will always find a way to operate; if it is out in the open then it encourages the more professional side of the industry and also means that those who work are more likely to work in a professional environment. Alternatively there will be less of those people and those who do work are subjected to worse conditions and outside the protection of the law if something goes wrong. Further, the enforcement officials lose one of their most valuable resources in stamping out the problem elements: the industry itself. As the video points out, people - whether clients or sex-workers - will not come forward if they are at risk themselves.

What should have been learnt from the Swedish model is that it is detrimental to all involved and the community.
 
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Congratulations on a great summary of the problem, Claudia.

I hope you put that in a submission to Mr Porter.

Sadly, I fear that the incidence of god-bothering wowsers trying to influence Governement is, if anything, on the rise despite falling church attendances. There seems to be a solid "fifth column" of religious politicians and they frighten me more than terrorists.

My best hope for the proposed legislation is that it will make its way to its usual place on the back-burner.
 
Thanks, Svengali.

I tackled the Submission from that perspective, but took a much more measured approach. It is impossible to take a hard-line ideological stance when dealing with people who stand in ideological opposition. If you're interested in the crux of what I argued for it can be found here.

I too despair at the significant proportion of right wing conservative and religiously driven politicians governing the world today. They employ the same tactics as religion, which is control through fear, and this has led to a society that while perhaps not becoming more religious is shifting slowly towards the right and becoming further steeped in conservatism. Just consider their approach to terrorism and refugees and censorship the general position society has on them.

Sex is the most significant of these because it relates to our primal instincts. Once society becomes truly sexually liberated - seeing sex as simply a part of human interaction and a physical act of enjoyment as distinct to anything to do with love - the powers that be will lose a great deal of the control that they have. Hence all groups use it as a weapon to achieve their aims. Religion restricted all but sex between husband and wife as a sin, using people's fear of death and the potential to go to hell as the control mechanism. Politicians still maintain this to a fair degree and society clings to this traditional value. Feminism used male desires against men, using people's fear of criminal charges and imprisonment as the control mechanism. (Incidentally, I am not advocating against men being required to show women proper respect; I am referring to the radical feminist perspectives such as an appreciative glance being regarded as sexual harassment.)

This essentially means that the sex industry being an open and respected profession is about the final frontier.
 
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Nobody forces us to pick our career.

Unfortunately, when people enter the sex industry, people often try to take advantage. Because alot of money can be made quickly, the people who assist can often become greedy.
Ask any employer how hard it is to effectively manage a large group of people.

Take this one step further and you will se, when faced with a vunerable demoralised woman, how easy it is to push her in the wrong direction.

For those women in australia who are forced to choose sex work, it probably doesn't feel like much of career.
 
Women and children have been forced or tricked into entering sex work. Sex work is usually regarded as slavery that enslaves women and children where they are at risk of rape, murder, assault, abuse and STIs including Aids and Hepatitis et al. Millions of women and children have been exported from developed and third world countries and bring in lots of money to the criminal organisations.

A large number of Eastern European, Asian and African women and children exported into brothels by brothel managers must pay back never ending debts. If they escape they face deportation and prosecution by the legal system.

Keep on believing that all women/men sell their services of their own free will. In a corrupt world ruled by selfishness, greed, power and corruption there is plenty of evidence and stories to indicate that the sex industry is usually a last resort for the people involved in it.
 
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Once again Brawler you have gone straight for the negative and bad in the industry....like I have said in other threads to you..yes in this industry like ALL industries thorugh out the workd there is good and bad elements. The point we are tryiing to make..is that we are trying to remove the sterotypes and exactly the way of thinking like yours....to see the broader picture and the good in the industry and the workers.

I am intelligent, uni educated, self respecting women...who chooses and loves my job, my clients and the life I have created for myself....yes the bad side is there but that is all people tend to see we are trying to show people the other side.

AWESOME Dylan...and Claudia beautiful written....so very interesting...love it!!


Women and children have been forced or tricked into entering sex work. Sex work is usually regarded as slavery that enslaves women and children where they are at risk of rape, murder, assault, abuse and STIs including Aids and Hepatitis et al. Millions of women and children have been exported from developed and third world countries and bring in lots of money to the criminal organisations.

A large number of Eastern European, Asian and African women and children exported into brothels by brothel managers must pay back never ending debts. If they escape they face deportation and prosecution by the legal system.

Keep on believing that all women/men sell their services of their own free will. In a corrupt world ruled by selfishness, greed, power and corruption there is plenty of evidence and stories to indicate that the sex industry is usually a last resort for the people involved in it.
 
Also in Australia...WL have lower case of STI's then "nom's"....proven statisttics...refer to Magenta website!!!
 
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