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When You Cant sleep. Insomnia is a bitch

Winter W.

Winter W.

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since i was 8 i have been friends with chronic insomnia. by the time my 9th bday came around i was sleeping once for 7 hrs every 3 nights. now i am lucky if i get 4hrs every 7 nights, if i am stressed then its none for anywhere between 7-10 days . In this time of no sleep i am scrubbbing house reading book after book and have 2 degrees now. but at times its just not good for me, when you sleep you get that mental break from everything that's doing your head in through the waking hrs. I don't get this, i literally have to live with the stress 24/7. its rather unpleasant that's why i am an academia addict and a book worm. Anything to try keep the mind from dwelling on things. It hasn't been working at all even in the slightest lately. And i cannot have silence in any way. Even if i am studying i cannot concentrate if i don't have the tv on and the overhead fan. Silence puts me on edge, Does anyone else have this Problem? Or chronic insomnia? if you have any tips on getting to sleep WITHOUT PILLS Hit me up....and before you think about suggesting sex???? i am at myself all the time and it doesn't work :)
 
Have you tried the herbal remedies we Nytol over here which is natural.
I cannot suggest anything else other than trying to relax by all means leave something on in the background on low but lay back shut your eyes and try to empty your head, which is hard i know because it is stuffed full of academia. Then just drift to the sound of the tv or radio
 
hi Winter , sounds like you have sleep apnea , i was having the same problem and i went to see my doctor and he refereed me to the sleep disorder clinic @ the hospital and i then had a 1 night sleep over with heaps of wires attached to my head for recording brain function, and now i sleep with a mask and a CPAP machine . i am having much better sleep now.

all the best :-) :-) i do hope this helps
 
I sympathize with ya, can't say I have the same problem. But have you tried a cup of warm milk and some nibblies. I know it's bad to eat before bed but if it helps.

It's probably psychological and habitual this insomnia. Thinking back to when you were 8, was there anything that started the insomnia trend? Any stressful event? Traumatic maybe? I guess you need to drill down to the root before you can find answers. I am no expert. Perhaps your brain is cranking overtime, need to find way of slowing it down. Maybe seek professional help.
 
I can't sleep without a light on. So I guess it would be similar to you not being able to sleep in silence. My sister can't fall asleep without head phones in. It could be something simple like this that could help you sleep (room could be too cold/hot) there are so many things that could cause someone to not be able to sleep. I personally don't have any other issues with sleep. I only sleep when I am tired. I am always tired. lol. Limit caffeine before bed, maybe try a chamomile tea? don't use your phone/tv/ipad etc 2 hours before bed (book?)

I dont know. I am rambling. Its time for me to go to bed. lol

Happy sleeping xx
 
When I can't sleep. I just get the phone to play Game take me 10-30 min I can gone sleep straight away Hihihi :joyful:
 
Winter W. said:
since i was 8 i have been friends with chronic insomnia. by the time my 9th bday came around i was sleeping once for 7 hrs every 3 nights. now i am lucky if i get 4hrs every 7 nights, if i am stressed then its none for anywhere between 7-10 days . In this time of no sleep i am scrubbbing house reading book after book and have 2 degrees now. but at times its just not good for me, when you sleep you get that mental break from everything that's doing your head in through the waking hrs. I don't get this, i literally have to live with the stress 24/7. its rather unpleasant that's why i am an academia addict and a book worm. Anything to try keep the mind from dwelling on things. It hasn't been working at all even in the slightest lately. And i cannot have silence in any way. Even if i am studying i cannot concentrate if i don't have the tv on and the overhead fan. Silence puts me on edge, Does anyone else have this Problem? Or chronic insomnia? if you have any tips on getting to sleep WITHOUT PILLS Hit me up....and before you think about suggesting sex???? i am at myself all the time and it doesn't work :)
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I empathise with you Winter - its a rough road to trod. My suggestion would be get get a referral to a reputable Sleep Clinic & Sleep Physician - preferably at one of the tertiary hospitals. It helped me enormously. Good luck :)
 
Hi Winter, I agree with Bazzaa88. If you've been suffering this long, the simple remedies like camomile tea, warm milk, etc. that work for occasional sleeplessness are unlikely to be effective for you. You should seek out a clinic that specialises in sleep disorders, preferably not one associated with a particular product to push but an impartial practice like at a hospital as Bazzaa suggests. Google throws up several options for you to consider, e.g. http://www.mounthospital.com.au/index.php/138/perth-sleep-clinic/

This lists some common conditions, including chronic insomnia (if that is what you are ultimately diagnosed with): http://www.sleepwa.com.au/sleep-disorders

Sweet dreams. :)
 
hi All i was referred to the Sleep disorder Clinic @ the PA Hospital by my doctor @ the Obesity Clinic . i had a sleep over for tests and trial of a Cpap Machine to help my breathing @ night , after a 2 month trial i now have a Govt funded Cpap Machine free for my use until i no longer need .

all the best on what ever you decide :-)

enjoy the forum
 
homer said:
I sympathize with ya, can't say I have the same problem. But have you tried a cup of warm milk and some nibblies. I know it's bad to eat before bed but if it helps.

It's probably psychological and habitual this insomnia. Thinking back to when you were 8, was there anything that started the insomnia trend? Any stressful event? Traumatic maybe? I guess you need to drill down to the root before you can find answers. I am no expert. Perhaps your brain is cranking overtime, need to find way of slowing it down. Maybe seek professional help.
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thinking back to when i was 8, was there anything that started this insomnia?????? um yep and i dont even have to think back :) and i really dont like to. I started to train myself to stay awake so i would be safe in my own room. :)
 
XLNC said:
Hi Winter, I agree with Bazzaa88. If you've been suffering this long, the simple remedies like camomile tea, warm milk, etc. that work for occasional sleeplessness are unlikely to be effective for you. You should seek out a clinic that specialises in sleep disorders, preferably not one associated with a particular product to push but an impartial practice like at a hospital as Bazzaa suggests. Google throws up several options for you to consider, e.g. http://www.mounthospital.com.au/index.php/138/perth-sleep-clinic/

This lists some common conditions, including chronic insomnia (if that is what you are ultimately diagnosed with): http://www.sleepwa.com.au/sleep-disorders

Sweet dreams. :)
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thank you XLNC , i will look into this link and see what i can find, and i am a chronic insomniac and in times of great stress (which is from the moment i wake up) my sleepless nights go up to 9,10 nights without sleep, which brings on narcolepsy. I have woken in a cane field naked 3 kms away from my house. mind you when i say wake up i mean, my eyes are open and i am talking to you and the people i see in my dreams, then my eyes focus and i freak the fuck out>
 
Winter , yer i didn't know anything about the funding until i was referred to the Sleep Clinic . the machine can be taken back by the Hospital anytime , but until then it is mine to use .

i searched the internet for used machines and there are heaps on the market , some are from the suppliers ( used for about half price )
 
johnlou said:
Winter , yer i didn't know anything about the funding until i was referred to the Sleep Clinic . the machine can be taken back by the Hospital anytime , but until then it is mine to use .

i searched the internet for used machines and there are heaps on the market , some are from the suppliers ( used for about half price )
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but what is the machine for? do you have breathing problems, sleep aponea? mine isnt that kinda problem, my clock is set like this from a need to be as a child, now its just showing off and pissing me off by getting worse every yr.. :)
 
Winter W. said:
thinking back to when i was 8, was there anything that started this insomnia?????? um yep and i dont even have to think back :) and i really dont like to. I started to train myself to stay awake so i would be safe in my own room. :)
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Aye...i see...that's when the pro comes in. I guess there's no sleep till you get the issue resolved. And having it for such a long time, I don't envy you. Maybe you can self help hyno therapy...hypnotic suggestions or subliminal audio.
 
Winter W. said:
thank you XLNC , i will look into this link and see what i can find, and i am a chronic insomniac and in times of great stress (which is from the moment i wake up) my sleepless nights go up to 9,10 nights without sleep, which brings on narcolepsy. I have woken in a cane field naked 3 kms away from my house. mind you when i say wake up i mean, my eyes are open and i am talking to you and the people i see in my dreams, then my eyes focus and i freak the f**k out>
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That is scary! I'd freak out too. You should definitely seek professional help, if you haven't already, not just for the current sleep disorder but also the deep-seated historical issue that appears to be the root cause -- very sorry to hear about that. :(

Lack of sleep can also adversely affect your health, like high blood pressure, which you may already be aware of. Perhaps start by talking to your GP -- or if you don't have one, a doctor at a medical centre -- they usually can help with pointing you to the right specialists. I've been dealing with a sleep-related issue too, but nothing like you and I'm wasted, so can't imagine how exhausted you must feel. Take care. :)
 
XLNC said:
That is scary! I'd freak out too. You should definitely seek professional help, if you haven't already, not just for the current sleep disorder but also the deep-seated historical issue that appears to be the root cause -- very sorry to hear about that. :(

Lack of sleep can also adversely affect your health, like high blood pressure, which you may already be aware of. Perhaps start by talking to your GP -- or if you don't have one, a doctor at a medical centre -- they usually can help with pointing you to the right specialists. I've been dealing with a sleep-related issue too, but nothing like you and I'm wasted, so can't imagine how exhausted you must feel. Take care. :)
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it actually doesnt bother me to much as i get 3x as much as anyone done in my life but when there are major stress times it would be good to have that 7-8 hr break from it by sleeping. I know your cells regenerate whilst you sleep so sleep deprivation ages you before your time. People never believe me when i tell them my age they reckon i am at least 10 yrs younger, so imagine how great id look if i slept every night! hey if i was like sleeping beauty maybe i could sleep my way back into infancy! but i would be shite at going to bed every night so many things i wanna learn and study. and i have The worst night terrors so i fear sleep. took a sleeping pill once slept for 2 days straight and except for once i spent that whole 2 days fighting for my life in nightmare after nightmare because i couldnt bloody wake up! never do that again, i was 10x as tired after sleeping those 2 days as i have ever been! :) and i scared the shit outta my bf who was staying with me. hehe
 
Maybe start Yoga, and/or light meditation?

I've been meaning to start, I meditate when I can, but it's fabulous, and Yoga, while calming, actually stimulates muscle use and blood circulation. It might not sound directly related, but it will create a domino effect, of sorts. Ya know? :)

Maybe try it 5-10 minutes a day for a week and see how you feel after 7 days, usually pretty good...

And, your body cools down slightly when you sleep, so after a hot drink or a hot shower stimulates the same feeling, but it sounds like your sleep is a bit more problematic than that...

Good luck :)
 
From the time i was about 11 I always finished the day with a good wank and orgasm, always gives a good nights sleep, now Im older sex can replace the wank, and a bit of weed helps it all along nicely
 
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