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WA Street girls

mick0

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I occasionally go for a drive around north bridge just to check out the girls working the street it is interesting .i don't pick up its just something that intrigues me but they have disappeared lately, do they stop working or hang out somewhere else ,or at a pub hotel somewhere , and on another thought do girls advertise on Facebook nowadays any information
 
i dont think they advertise on fb but girls create fan pages where the guys can see new pics and that stuff.

i think its in the newspaper personal ads that is the main form of advertising
 
I remember (a long time ago), when Palmerston Street was the hub for street walkers.
Keep us informed, would be interesting to know where they hang out now,, maybe now the nights have gone cold they are hibernating.
 
I think you might find that there are some CCTV cameras in the area and these have stopped most of the street girls working there. Another ploy was to have plain clothes policewomen looking loke street girls, then when you kerb crawl or stop, Mr Plod gets you.
 
The increasing illegality of so many aspects of prostitution and related activities meant that police had more control over what prostitutes did and where they worked. In Western Australia this power was used by the police, in collusion with magistrates, medical authorities and local governments, to establish red-light districts in major population centres such as Perth and Kalgoorlie. The breadth and flexibility provided for by the vagrancy laws meant that police could virtually dictate the behaviour of prostitutes and brothel-keepers on pain of imprisonment. While this policy meant severe infringements on the ability of sex workers to choose the location of their workplaces, it also had ramifications for the structure of the sex industry. Before the policy of localisation (ie: up to about 1915) it was possible to be a freelance prostitute, operating as a streetwalker or independently in a house or flat. With the advent of the Hay Street brothels in Kalgoorlie and those of Roe Street in Perth, it became increasingly difficult for women to operate outside the tolerated brothels. In order to escape police harassment women had to become either brothel inmates or keepers. While this meant big profits for the few who became keepers, for the majority of sex workers the change spelt a 'proletariatisation' of their occupation as they gave up self-employment for the position of brothel employees, handing over half their earnings to the madam (Davidson, 1980). Police ensured that organised criminals were kept away from the tolerated brothels by using the vagrancy provisions against 'bludgers' to deter any men other than customers from associating with the inmates.

A similar process of proletariatisation occurred in New South Wales over the same period, although it took a different form. Hilary Golder and Judith Allen (1979-80) describe how the increased police powers encouraged corruption in the police force, with individual officers accepting bribes to administer the law selectively. Organised criminal gangs, already in existence to control the gambling industry as well as the opium and illicit liquor traffic, seized this opportunity to extract protection money from freelance prostitutes, brothel-keepers and individual pimps, since they were the only ones with enough capital to pay either the police or the new heavy fines. Increasingly, sex-workers were forced to relinquish their former independence for the dubious protection of criminal networks. As Golder and Allen (1979-80, p.19) argue, this meant that

... the individual lost control over when, for how long, with whom and for what amount or kind of payment she worked. Her work could be deployed and incorporated into the service context of the drug, liquor or gambling traffic, whether she liked it or not. Increasingly she could be pushed into positions of risk, both as regards rival underworld gangs and the agents of the state. And where pimps survived, they tended to survive as employees of the criminal interests and acted in a managerial or supervisory capacity.

The changes to the New South Wales Summary Offences Act in 1908 thus provided the structural preconditions for the rise of the rival 'gang queens', Tilly Devine and Kate Leigh, who dominated Sydney prostitution from the 1920s to the 1940s.

The changes which occurred in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries set the framework for the operation of prostitution for most of the twentieth century. Only since the late 1970s have governments started experimenting with new ways of treating prostitution, generally moving towards less punitive models of legislation. These changes reflect changes in public attitudes towards sexual relations between consenting adults generally and a greater awareness of the deficiencies and injustices embodied in the previous approach. The evolution of new approaches is an ongoing process and the end of the twentieth century promises to be another crucial period in the history of Australian prostitution as state governments and local councils grapple with the various civil rights, health and planning issues associated with prostitution (Gerull and Halstead, 1992). What is certain is that we will continue to see 'the State' behaving in complex and sometimes contradictory ways. Different levels of government (federal, state, local) have different priorities and responsibilities and these are not always compatible. Likewise, different state agencies (eg: police, child welfare, health, prisons, military) have different agendas which sometimes coincide but at other times work in opposition to each other.

I can't claim any fame for this work. It's from Reference: FRANCES, R. (1994) The History of Female Prostitution in Australia in PERKINS, R., PRESTAGE, G., SHARP, R. & LOVEJOY, F. (eds.) (1994) Sex Work and Sex Workers in Australia. University of New South Wales Press: Sydney. pp.27-52.
 
The increasing illegality of so many aspects of prostitution and related activities meant that police had more control over what prostitutes did and where they worked. In Western Australia this power was used by the police, in collusion with magistrates, medical authorities and local governments, to establish red-light districts in major population centres such as Perth and Kalgoorlie. The breadth and flexibility provided for by the vagrancy laws meant that police could virtually dictate the behaviour of prostitutes and brothel-keepers on pain of imprisonment. While this policy meant severe infringements on the ability of sex workers to choose the location of their workplaces, it also had ramifications for the structure of the sex industry. Before the policy of localisation (ie: up to about 1915) it was possible to be a freelance prostitute, operating as a streetwalker or independently in a house or flat. With the advent of the Hay Street brothels in Kalgoorlie and those of Roe Street in Perth, it became increasingly difficult for women to operate outside the tolerated brothels. In order to escape police harassment women had to become either brothel inmates or keepers. While this meant big profits for the few who became keepers, for the majority of sex workers the change spelt a 'proletariatisation' of their occupation as they gave up self-employment for the position of brothel employees, handing over half their earnings to the madam (Davidson, 1980). Police ensured that organised criminals were kept away from the tolerated brothels by using the vagrancy provisions against 'bludgers' to deter any men other than customers from associating with the inmates.

A similar process of proletariatisation occurred in New South Wales over the same period, although it took a different form. Hilary Golder and Judith Allen (1979-80) describe how the increased police powers encouraged corruption in the police force, with individual officers accepting bribes to administer the law selectively. Organised criminal gangs, already in existence to control the gambling industry as well as the opium and illicit liquor traffic, seized this opportunity to extract protection money from freelance prostitutes, brothel-keepers and individual pimps, since they were the only ones with enough capital to pay either the police or the new heavy fines. Increasingly, sex-workers were forced to relinquish their former independence for the dubious protection of criminal networks. As Golder and Allen (1979-80, p.19) argue, this meant that

... the individual lost control over when, for how long, with whom and for what amount or kind of payment she worked. Her work could be deployed and incorporated into the service context of the drug, liquor or gambling traffic, whether she liked it or not. Increasingly she could be pushed into positions of risk, both as regards rival underworld gangs and the agents of the state. And where pimps survived, they tended to survive as employees of the criminal interests and acted in a managerial or supervisory capacity.

The changes to the New South Wales Summary Offences Act in 1908 thus provided the structural preconditions for the rise of the rival 'gang queens', Tilly Devine and Kate Leigh, who dominated Sydney prostitution from the 1920s to the 1940s.

The changes which occurred in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries set the framework for the operation of prostitution for most of the twentieth century. Only since the late 1970s have governments started experimenting with new ways of treating prostitution, generally moving towards less punitive models of legislation. These changes reflect changes in public attitudes towards sexual relations between consenting adults generally and a greater awareness of the deficiencies and injustices embodied in the previous approach. The evolution of new approaches is an ongoing process and the end of the twentieth century promises to be another crucial period in the history of Australian prostitution as state governments and local councils grapple with the various civil rights, health and planning issues associated with prostitution (Gerull and Halstead, 1992). What is certain is that we will continue to see 'the State' behaving in complex and sometimes contradictory ways. Different levels of government (federal, state, local) have different priorities and responsibilities and these are not always compatible. Likewise, different state agencies (eg: police, child welfare, health, prisons, military) have different agendas which sometimes coincide but at other times work in opposition to each other.
 
I started working on the streets at 19, most of the girls hung around highgate and there were plenty of punters but it was also dangerous
 

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It still happens here and there sporadically. I was parked in my ute at Balga Bazar a while ago having a coffee and a girl walked up and straight out asked "Ya want to fuck?". She ended up scoring a taxi driver who took her somewhere the back of Balga.

Really it is not worth it no matter how tempting, it can backfire horrendously if false claims are put on you, not to mention health risks too or being set up for a mugging.
 
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I'm not even game enough to pick up hitch-hikers due to the risks involved. The last time I picked up a hitch hiker was more out of concern for her welfare late at night to ensure she got home safe but I scolded myself afterwards.

She said she was walking home from working in a brothel in Northbridge but in hindsight she should've had the funds for a taxi or the brothel at least uber her home.

Anyway never again unless really concerned for a person's welfare.

Is it illegal to pick up hitch-hikers?
 
I'm not even game enough to pick up hitch-hikers due to the risks involved. The last time I picked up a hitch hiker was more out of concern for her welfare late at night to ensure she got home safe but I scolded myself afterwards.

She said she was walking home from working in a brothel in Northbridge but in hindsight she should've had the funds for a taxi or the brothel at least uber her home.

Anyway never again unless really concerned for a person's welfare.

Is it illegal to pick up hitch-hikers?
Brumby,
I once was pulled over to pick up a hitch hiker out of concern for their welfare.
It was mid afternoon, a searing hot Perth summer day, she was walking along the Roe Hwy basically in the middle between Kenwick and Midland, a long way to walk between either.

So as I approach I realise it was a woman, I think twice at that stage, not wishing to place myself in a situationan that could bring about any false Claims ( or clams), however as stated previously it was really stinking hot and my conscience got the better of me.

So I pull up just ahead of her and she rushes to the car and jumps in. I did not even look at her at first, as I had an eye on the side mirror, watching the traffic approaching from behind, to ensure I was not going to get cleaned as I pulled back out into the approaching traffic.

As I pulled back out into the traffic, I asked her where she was going, when she told me, I told her I could take her about half way to her destination as the remainder was out of my way.

At this point she said well how about a blow job to take me all the way, at this point I turned to look at this woman for the very first time. She was clearly a substance abuser, (google search crystal meth addicts images and you may well find her there), blemished face, mouth full of rotten teeth. I politely declined her offer and reaffirmed I where I would be dropping her off.

She then asks me, "how about a blow job for $50".

To which I politely replied, "honey, I sincerely doubt you have $50 on you"

At this point I pulled up and told her to get out!!!!
 
@LongHair yes sometimes a kind gesture can draw out to more than you can handle. I do feel guilty about driving past and not helping but they put themselves there not me....

I had a couple of young female backpackers ask for a ride once when I was leaving Broome south-bound and they considered riding with me back to Perth. I turned it down, just didn't want the risk.
 
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