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sk8erboi
More and more i feel like being honest and having a true moral compass is disabling and a disadvantage these days.
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Cruisin'
LOL now that is a sentiment I can agree with. if it all gets too much head to Amsterdam - that will set you straight
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Naughty Thoughts
True.
I was raised with "be polite, be courteous, be nice" and it hasn't gotten me very far. On the plus side, plenty of women describe me as "a nice guy" or have me on the "friend" list.
I was raised with "be polite, be courteous, be nice" and it hasn't gotten me very far. On the plus side, plenty of women describe me as "a nice guy" or have me on the "friend" list.
svengali
Foundation Member
That is the rub, isn't it? Being a "nice guy" gets you pats on the head but it doesn't get you laid.
Nice guys finish last
In many ways
In many ways
well sure, the nice guys may not just get laid... but theyre the ones women wanna marry 
i married a 'nice guy' ...
shame he didnt stay so nice... lol
i married a 'nice guy' ...shame he didnt stay so nice... lol
swingingstories
Gold Member
The thing with morals is, it's not about the morals benefiting our lives, or even making us behave well.
Each individual's moral code is set (uniquely) to ensure that you can feel like a good person on the inside, when you're alone, and at night when you lay your head on the pillow.
Personally, I'm hanging on to my sense of morality.
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swingingstories
Each individual's moral code is set (uniquely) to ensure that you can feel like a good person on the inside, when you're alone, and at night when you lay your head on the pillow.
Personally, I'm hanging on to my sense of morality.
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paul78
I work for a major miner, and although young and hence at the bottom, my work has led me to have have had contact with most of senior management down in Perth.
I can honestly say that there are not too many pricks who have risen above middle management positions. In fact I came across one of the managers in a shopping centre once selling raffle tickets for charity. I chatted with the other person there, and she had no idea of what job he did, just that he had been helping out for the last few years. Not bad for someone who in his position would take home around 15-20K a fortnight. The majority of those in these higher positions tend to be tough, but generous. I have noticed that the pricks tend to be blacklisted if they cause too much friction. People need to toughen up and stand up for themselves. I have found that generally sorts the rude people out, and you often discover that those you have not thought much of previously turn out be quite helpful once you have their respect. Probably helps that people (wrongly) think because of my build that I can fight, truth is my four yo goddaughter would be a better fighter then me.
I can honestly say that there are not too many pricks who have risen above middle management positions. In fact I came across one of the managers in a shopping centre once selling raffle tickets for charity. I chatted with the other person there, and she had no idea of what job he did, just that he had been helping out for the last few years. Not bad for someone who in his position would take home around 15-20K a fortnight. The majority of those in these higher positions tend to be tough, but generous. I have noticed that the pricks tend to be blacklisted if they cause too much friction. People need to toughen up and stand up for themselves. I have found that generally sorts the rude people out, and you often discover that those you have not thought much of previously turn out be quite helpful once you have their respect. Probably helps that people (wrongly) think because of my build that I can fight, truth is my four yo goddaughter would be a better fighter then me.
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mshotties
it's not just morals, it's disposition, outlook, everything. If you're too nice you get walked on, but if you're too mean you're labeled a bitch or prick
i agree , as i am respectfull and curtious to my fellow being and i get left behind all the time
( untill some one steps on my toes )
I thought getting walked on was considered enjoyment by some, i guess for different reasons.
It's a fine line between being fair and reasonable.
Me i'm honest in profiles and such and umm well hence the tag, nothing since 2004. I just put my lack of ..down to my transsexual status and my having no desire to date the male of the species.
I have read personal accounts of an event that recently happen, and i will just say that people with no self restraint and obviously no morals at all made what was meant to be a happy occasion more of a nightmare.
Is it possible for women to marry a "nice Transsexual"??
It's a fine line between being fair and reasonable.
Me i'm honest in profiles and such and umm well hence the tag, nothing since 2004. I just put my lack of ..down to my transsexual status and my having no desire to date the male of the species.
I have read personal accounts of an event that recently happen, and i will just say that people with no self restraint and obviously no morals at all made what was meant to be a happy occasion more of a nightmare.
Is it possible for women to marry a "nice Transsexual"??
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flange gasket
I think you've nailed it. Too many "nice guys" are actually in fact just whiny faggots and they're godamn annoying, I dont know many women who'd want that. There's a line you must straddle.
As said in the previous post, true pricks dont get overly far. Once you step on too many toes, there's knives out for you.
Perhaps there's karma, perhaps there isn't but the fact remains that if you fuck people over, expect it back. They universe doesn't need to dish out justice, people can do that themselves.
Bluegrass9
Diamond Member
I try to be an easy going nice guy and because of it often picked on. However there comes a point when I just have to show I can kick butt if I have to.
It is interesting how many females prefer the rebel, smart arse guy.
I am what I am and I am able to sleep at night knowing I have tried to be kind to my fellow man/woman.
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It is interesting how many females prefer the rebel, smart arse guy.
I am what I am and I am able to sleep at night knowing I have tried to be kind to my fellow man/woman.
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Miranda Fox
Whatever.....
Yes I am an Escort/Companion
But I am also a friendly nice person too.
I offer help whenever I can to people.
One thing that annoys the hell out of me is the following :
When a young man does the right thing.
Books into a motel
Rings me - the Escort - to visit him
I rang the Motel to double he is there, and Not some prank.
Well I never expected the response I got from the Motel....
When I asked her, she hung up on me. I rang again and she hung up again.
I rang a 3rd time and said Excuse me, why did you do that for ?
She said "If you had any morals, you would not be doing what you are doing".
I rang the young man back and said very sorry I did not expect the motel lady to give you a refund and tell you to leave.
I asked him to go to another town, check in to that motel. I will meet you there.
That is exactly what happened.
Instead of men raping, sexually assaulting young / older women - they are seeing Escorts.
I just shake my head !!!
Yes I am an Escort/Companion
But I am also a friendly nice person too.
I offer help whenever I can to people.
One thing that annoys the hell out of me is the following :
When a young man does the right thing.
Books into a motel
Rings me - the Escort - to visit him
I rang the Motel to double he is there, and Not some prank.
Well I never expected the response I got from the Motel....
When I asked her, she hung up on me. I rang again and she hung up again.
I rang a 3rd time and said Excuse me, why did you do that for ?
She said "If you had any morals, you would not be doing what you are doing".
I rang the young man back and said very sorry I did not expect the motel lady to give you a refund and tell you to leave.
I asked him to go to another town, check in to that motel. I will meet you there.
That is exactly what happened.
Instead of men raping, sexually assaulting young / older women - they are seeing Escorts.
I just shake my head !!!
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Mektor
I agree there's a line between nice guy and push over.
I know a lot of guys who think they're hard done by in life because they see themselves as the 'nice guy' when, in lot of cases, it comes down to the fact that they don't grab life by the balls and they let themselves be walked over.
In regards to the OP; I don't think I could go as far as to say that having morals is a disadvantage in life - If the things you want in life require you to take the moral low ground to achieve maybe you're going after the wrong things.
I always try to come across to anybody in a nice manor. So if someone comes across as ignorant or arrogant i would rather not know them.
Yes i do believe sometimes being honest can create problems for you.I have done it thru certain government agencies and if i would of just kept my mouth shut and let things go on as they were i would of been better off.
Though i am a great believer what goes around comes around soon or later.
That is karma and i very much believe in it.
Sometimes you don't even get to see it happening but to me it always does.
So being strait up front and don't lie is still the best option by far to me.
I can't stand people that bullshit to try and impress someone as usually you catch them out.
If you do lie to people you have to have one very good memory because people that don't tell lies never have to worry about something they said 6months earlier, as people that do usually bring themselves undone.
So i still think 99% of the time if your honest you have nothing to worry about. To me that's where having good morals start from, being honest to yourself and people you are involved with plain and simple.
Yes i do believe sometimes being honest can create problems for you.I have done it thru certain government agencies and if i would of just kept my mouth shut and let things go on as they were i would of been better off.
Though i am a great believer what goes around comes around soon or later.
That is karma and i very much believe in it.
Sometimes you don't even get to see it happening but to me it always does.
So being strait up front and don't lie is still the best option by far to me.
I can't stand people that bullshit to try and impress someone as usually you catch them out.
If you do lie to people you have to have one very good memory because people that don't tell lies never have to worry about something they said 6months earlier, as people that do usually bring themselves undone.
So i still think 99% of the time if your honest you have nothing to worry about. To me that's where having good morals start from, being honest to yourself and people you are involved with plain and simple.
Smoggy
Foundation Member
I worked for a very well known WA company that deliberately and systematically lied to its customers. Myself, as the face of that company had to push the message and win contracts the company had no intention of honouring.
Over a few years I watched a small group of ruthless individuals work together within this organisation for their own benefit. They lied, schemed and cheated to remove and isolate their rivals to eventually become Managing Director and General Managers. Having a morgage at the time I couldn't afford to move on but eventually I had enough and dropped out of the corporate world.
Their dishonesty and lack of morals paid dividends for them but they left a trail of burnt out and discarded decent people in their wake.
As someone once said here "Its nice to be important but important to be nice". NiftyNev
Over a few years I watched a small group of ruthless individuals work together within this organisation for their own benefit. They lied, schemed and cheated to remove and isolate their rivals to eventually become Managing Director and General Managers. Having a morgage at the time I couldn't afford to move on but eventually I had enough and dropped out of the corporate world.
Their dishonesty and lack of morals paid dividends for them but they left a trail of burnt out and discarded decent people in their wake.
As someone once said here "Its nice to be important but important to be nice". NiftyNev
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another_guy00
young man with old school morals always makes it hard to pick up in the bar even if shes pretty much got her skirt up around her waist already. then u get called gay because you dont want in. sucks hardcore
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z2172780
I think it depends on your definition of morals. Lots of good can come from good "morals" but it could also deprive you of a lot of "fun" I think a good balance is required and only you can find that middle ground without turning out to be a total bastard.
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johnnyshootsrainbow777
i think i have morals, but i have been naughty now and again.........morals doesnt stop me from having fun........as long as u believe u r doing the right thing, or doing nothing wrong, or maybe just standing there watching as a spectator and not helping.......actually that last one is a crime in america i think.
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cougar
nice guys get to marry the girl. its a pity my nice guy turned into an arsehole. here is to hoping my new nice guy stays nice.
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pyromaniac
hahaha nice one! sucks about peeps these days.
Having Morals can never be a disadvantge.
I have always believed that one day I will get to meet my maker and that every one I have helped along the way will give me points for the times when i have done wrong.
The Rotary 4 way test is a great way to live your life.
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
RIP Taylor - Four Way Test
I have always believed that one day I will get to meet my maker and that every one I have helped along the way will give me points for the times when i have done wrong.
The Rotary 4 way test is a great way to live your life.
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
RIP Taylor - Four Way Test
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**Mel**
Totally agree maryanne!! Id rather go to heaven knowing I lived my life with respect, keeping my morals and values true to myself. The bad people with no morals eventually get the shine shone on them and the good person will prevail.
Maybe that is just called karma lol either way, thats my belief x
Maybe that is just called karma lol either way, thats my belief x
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Evelynne
I agree with Maryanne, the 4 Way test seems like a fair guideline, but I've never heard of it before now.
I always thought of myself as the nice girl, and I get walked all over a lot, but I think you're right when you say "push over". I'd like to "grab life by the balls" so to speak, but I find too many people intimidating *tsk tsk*.
I think sometimes being nice and courteous only gets you so far.
I always thought of myself as the nice girl, and I get walked all over a lot, but I think you're right when you say "push over". I'd like to "grab life by the balls" so to speak, but I find too many people intimidating *tsk tsk*.
I think sometimes being nice and courteous only gets you so far.
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headingout99
I think it does come down to our definitions of these things.. what is right, what is wrong? what are morals actually? is it just the feeling of being able to live with yourself? a lot of people who kill and rape live with themselves and do it again and again...does that mean having "good morals"?
Dont know...I kind of agree with the rotary test but then again, what is the definition of fair or beneficial? It may be beneficial to ignore a crying child to make them understand that they may not always get what they want, but is it fair to ignore that child's needs?
I completely agree that if you are honest to yourself then thats all that matters, but we are all human and so many times it feels like we are being honest in the moment and then later that feeling grows inside and you think you may have made the wrong decision....
I think just being yourself is the only thing you can really be...we are all made different...we just have to find ourselves...and many of us search for that for a lifetime...we cant judge...
Dont know...I kind of agree with the rotary test but then again, what is the definition of fair or beneficial? It may be beneficial to ignore a crying child to make them understand that they may not always get what they want, but is it fair to ignore that child's needs?
I completely agree that if you are honest to yourself then thats all that matters, but we are all human and so many times it feels like we are being honest in the moment and then later that feeling grows inside and you think you may have made the wrong decision....
I think just being yourself is the only thing you can really be...we are all made different...we just have to find ourselves...and many of us search for that for a lifetime...we cant judge...
headingout99 great post. This thread is interesting and all have made great comments.
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keno69
i feel you man. morals and ethics have gone down the drain. these days being a nice person is just giving others a reason to take advantage of you. oh well, such is life.
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sensluver
having morals may be disadvantage in today's outer world, but it comes back to you saying "yes I did the ridgt thing the right way and not to have harmed anayone-physically-socially-practically.
Not being moral may attain short-term goals but can haunt you deep in the heart - wish i didnt have done this.....
Not being moral may attain short-term goals but can haunt you deep in the heart - wish i didnt have done this.....
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young_orlando
i agree with you 2, being a nice person doesnt take you very far.